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    Legislation to repeal law regarding Federal School GFSZ Act

    Giving up our liberties for safety is the one sure way to let the violent among us win.

    "Though defensive violence will always be a 'sad necessity' in the eyes of men of principle, it would be still more unfortunate if wrongdoers should dominate just men." -Saint Augustine

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    Thanks for posting.

    Hopefully this, and the marijuana law will both go through, and make 2011 a landmark year for personal freedoms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    Thanks for posting.

    Hopefully this, and the marijuana law will both go through, and make 2011 a landmark year for personal freedoms.
    Since the neo-cons elected to lansing last November are getting ready to gut the voter approved medical marijuana initiative this fall, I would expect that they will do whatever is necessary to keep marijuana as illegal as possible in this state no matter what happens at the federal level. And I think we both know that it has no chance on the federal level at this point either.

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    If I get some time I might try to put togeather a sample letter for the forum in support of this. That way no one has any excuses for not contacting thier representitive in support of this bill.

    This bill needs to pass! It's high time the Federal Government got back in line with supporting all of our rights. Repealing the school GFZ would be a very good step in the right direction.
    Last edited by Greyh Seer; 07-27-2011 at 06:34 PM.

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    Funny I was just thinking today how this would be a good time to repeal this legislation and it wouldn't surprise me if Obama were to sign the bill to try to get 2A support going into the 2012 election.
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    ...If the state converts a right into a privelege, the citizen can ignore the license and fee and engage in the right... with impunity.
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    If he shakes your hand, watch the other one closely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    If he shakes your hand, watch the other one closely.
    Oh I'm not saying he's pro gun I realize he is not, however, I could see him signing this to try to get some pro 2A votes.
    "No state shall convert a liberty to a privilege, license it, and charge a fee therefor.- Murdock vs Pennsylvania 319 US 105

    ...If the state converts a right into a privelege, the citizen can ignore the license and fee and engage in the right... with impunity.
    - Shuttleworth vs City of Birmingham, Alabama 317 US 262

    Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no legislation which would abrogate them.
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    Me too.

    I only vote on a couple specifics anyhow. Pro gun, pro life, pro pot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    Me too.

    I only vote on a couple specifics anyhow. Pro gun, pro life, pro pot.
    Interesting. I would never vote in someone who was an anti, but those 3 are an interesting combo and I agree with you on 2 of them.
    "No state shall convert a liberty to a privilege, license it, and charge a fee therefor.- Murdock vs Pennsylvania 319 US 105

    ...If the state converts a right into a privelege, the citizen can ignore the license and fee and engage in the right... with impunity.
    - Shuttleworth vs City of Birmingham, Alabama 317 US 262

    Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no legislation which would abrogate them.
    - Miranda vs Arizona 384 US 436

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    Quote Originally Posted by xmanhockey7 View Post
    Interesting. I would never vote in someone who was an anti, but those 3 are an interesting combo and I agree with you on 2 of them.
    it's not THAT interesting... there are at least a couple presidential candidates out there with the same beliefs
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    Obviously Im pro gun. I cant support killing innocents for any reason, and the .gov shouldnt be telling me what I can do with my own body, especially with medical issues. Then theres the whole hemp thing.

    Knowing where someone stands on pot is one of the most clear indicators on how the candidate really views personal freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    Obviously Im pro gun. I cant support killing innocents for any reason, and the .gov shouldnt be telling me what I can do with my own body, especially with medical issues. Then theres the whole hemp thing.

    Knowing where someone stands on pot is one of the most clear indicators on how the candidate really views personal freedom.
    I must be missing something.... don'tcha usually sit on the pot?




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    Gun control isn't about the gun at all.... for those who want gun control it is all about their own fragile egos, their own lack of self esteem, their own inner fears, and most importantly... their own desire to dominate others. And an openly carried gun is a slap in the face to all of those things.

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    Ron Paul -- 2012!!!!!!
    Call for a cop, call for an ambulance, and call for a pizza. See who shows up first.

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    If Ron Paul doesn't even make the primary it is going to be a clear sign that the constitution is dead in this country.
    “The claim and exercise of a constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime.”
    [Miller vs. U.S., 230 F. Supp. 486, 489 (1956)]
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQ View Post
    Ron Paul -- 2012!!!!!!
    Wouldn't that be a nice change of pace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamaneggs View Post
    http://gunowners.org/ .You can go here(GOA),click on TAKE ACTION,click on LEGISLATIVE ACTION CENTER. Fill out info and send to your Reps! I use this on all 2A questions GOA brings up.I get auto emails regularly from them!
    Thank you. I'll be using this a lot from now on.
    “The claim and exercise of a constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQ View Post
    Ron Paul -- 2012!!!!!!
    And then we can all take a victory lap on our unicorns and stop for a snack at the jellybean tree.

    Substance over style will not win a presidential election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    And then we can all take a victory lap on our unicorns and stop for a snack at the jellybean tree.

    Substance over style will not win a presidential election.

    Bronson
    I actually voted for Dr Paul in my first vote for President back in 1988 when he was the Libertarian candidate; I met him on the campaign trail and found him very intelligent and cognizant of constitutional issues. I distinctly recall him calling former President Reagan "a failure" and railing against the legacy of high deficits that he left us. http://www.ninomiya.org/libertarian/..._laughlin.html

    Dr Paul has some connection to Michigan; he did his residency at the Henry Ford Hospital in Detroit and his brother is a Lutheran minister in Grand Rapids http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dan-tr...u_b_71108.html

    Now, I am not saying that I agree with him 100%... especially since he has become MUCH more conciliatory towards the "statist" quo (playing nice with fellow Republicans); I would even dare say that he changed his viewpoint from Libertarian to more of a party-line republican. However, his support of the 2nd Amendment has, at least to my knowledge, not changed. I probably would still vote for the guy on that fact alone... but realize that as opposed to my vote in '88, because of his stance on non-2A issues, my vote now would be for "a-lesser-of-two-evils".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schlitz View Post
    If Ron Paul doesn't even make the primary it is going to be a clear sign that the constitution is dead in this country.
    Oh, I never knew it was alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schlitz View Post
    If Ron Paul doesn't even make the primary it is going to be a clear sign that the constitution is dead in this country.
    Ron Paul won't make the primary, and the constitution is already dead. Also, this nation is doomed to failure. Sorry, just had to say it how it is.

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    call your congressmen and tell them to support this bill. do it for the children
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    Quote Originally Posted by kubel View Post
    Ron Paul won't make primary
    He won't if good people like you and I believe what you said and vote for someone else. I'm voting for Ron Paul, are you? If not, why not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schlitz View Post
    Thank you. I'll be using this a lot from now on.
    I too will be using this often. Thanks!

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