Gunslinger
Regular Member
Look, you can bemoan the way the officer tried to get the citizen to violate his own civil rights, but when the citizen refused to do it to himself the officer accepted it with politeness and respect. This acceptance by the officer is what I feel is the shining star of this encounter.
Think about it for a minute ... if we can 'retrain' LEO that they DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO INSIST on us violating our civil rights, then more will accept our standing on our civil rights. Now, there is also a prime example of how LEO are able to get us citizens to 'give a little' on our civil rights when he asked Jeremy what his name was, then when he saw Jeremy was hesitant, he introduced himself which elicited Jeremy's first name :shocker:
We are taught to be polite, and that officer used that against Jeremy! I could almost feel the shiver that must have went up Jeremy's spine when he seemed to realize what he had just done
As for RAS, he had that because of the calls to dispatch. Asking who you are and what you are doing is fine ... it is just a question. But, for decades we have been trained, in school, by parents, etc. that we should cooperate with LEO. Whether it is under the guise of "help us to catch the BG" or "help us to help you" ... either way, we all need to retrain to stop this from continuing to erode our Civil Rights under the color of law.
I still think this was a great example of a good cop and good interaction. The more support this cop gets, the more his supervisors will look at how he conducts himself, and, maybe they will start including it in their training program.
He had no RAS. None. The stop was made because of the KA e-law, period. It is completely optional for the cop and this one--nice guy or not, chose to use an unconstitutional law to detain, however briefly, a subject of the Gulag. No other state has a law like this and it exists solely to keep the subjects who would dare carry even unloaded under the boot of the rulers.
