Interceptor_Knight
Regular Member
There is Admin Code which gives you specific fish and game possession limits. (NR20.18 and NR20.20) No such limit exists for bows or firearms.
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Newest from the DNR Aug. 4, 2011
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There is Admin Code which gives you specific fish and game possession limits. (NR20.18 and NR20.20) No such limit exists for bows or firearms.
Captain Nemo
Regular Member
Thank you 'sprocket. I did mean to say ---you can legally hunt with a Thompson Center Encore or Contender and carry either loaded and uncased in a vehicle-------. I most certainly did not intend to imply that hunting with either from a vehicle is legal. Miss McGuilicutty would be embarassed with me.
Captain Nemo
Regular Member
175.60 License to carry a concealed weapon. (1)
DEFINITIONS. In this section:
(bm) “Handgun” means any weapon designed or
redesigned, or made or remade, and intended to be fired
while held in one hand and to use the energy of an explosive
to expel a projectile through a smooth or rifled bore.
DEFINITIONS. In this section:
(bm) “Handgun” means any weapon designed or
redesigned, or made or remade, and intended to be fired
while held in one hand and to use the energy of an explosive
to expel a projectile through a smooth or rifled bore.
Yep... I can cc my Mossberg 500 J.I.C... WOO!!! Lol.
Interceptor_Knight
Regular Member
I hope the LOL means that you are just kidding.... :lol:
jpm84092
Regular Member
Would you care to demonstrate your marksmanship skills with the Mossberg 500 JIC pistol grip shotgun using only one hand?
So, I guess I am confused. The DNR publishes that you can not have your handgun while shining, even with a permit. I just looked up Senate Bill 93. In Section 6, 29.314 (3) (a) it states " Prohibition. No person my use or possess with intent to use a light for shining deer, elk, or bear while the person is hunting deer, elk, or bear or in possesion of a firearm that is not a handgun, bow and arrow, or crossbow." Sounds to me they excluded handguns which would make it legal to have a handgun, not legal for longuns, bows, and crossbows. Thoughts?
Interceptor_Knight
Regular Member
My thought is that you confused because are not looking up ACT 35 (the version of SB93 which actually passed)...
https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/document?cite=acts%2F2011%2F35.pdf
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The DNR is 100% correct on this point. There were no changes made to Statute 29.314(3)(a)...
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phred
Regular Member
Originally, the shining rule was to be amended.
The amended SB93 from May 23rd - after the Senate Judiciary Committee still has the 29.314 changes:
.; to amend 29.089 (2), 29.314 (3) (a), 29.314 7(4) (a), and in SB90 and a change to 29.314 (4)b was in that bill originally too
So, the big change came when the Joint Finance Committee bastardize the bill on June 14th. It was Senate Amendment 2 which does not have any reference to 29.314 - it was left out!!!!! https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2011/related/amendments/sb93/ssa2_sb93
The amended SB93 from May 23rd - after the Senate Judiciary Committee still has the 29.314 changes:
.; to amend 29.089 (2), 29.314 (3) (a), 29.314 7(4) (a), and in SB90 and a change to 29.314 (4)b was in that bill originally too
So, the big change came when the Joint Finance Committee bastardize the bill on June 14th. It was Senate Amendment 2 which does not have any reference to 29.314 - it was left out!!!!! https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2011/related/amendments/sb93/ssa2_sb93
Interceptor_Knight
Regular Member
It was technically Senate Substitute Amendment 2. A Substitute Amendment replaces the entire proposed bill. That is all academic now. People should be referencing Act 35 to ensure they are reading the correct text. .
https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/document?cite=acts%2F2011%2F35.pdf
No. Nor do I have to to cc it.
"(bm) “Handgun” means any weapon designed or
redesigned, or made or remade, and intended to be fired
while held in one hand and to use the energy of an explosive
to expel a projectile through a smooth or rifled bore."
Its the same with a "real" pistol, you could easily fire it one handed, but you dont have to. I would guess most people fire with two hands. Don't get me wrong, I shoot one handed all the time, but I dont have to. That doesnt mean it isnt a pistol when I add a second hand on the grip. I'm going to look for the youtube video of a guy shooting a 500 jic one handed. I might just be a little guy, but it has been done. Lol.
Maybe... ;-) Lol.
Any video here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF2Cp5CV9Hk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAxjdincIng
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0qaD2JecZ0
Hope that helps. Lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF2Cp5CV9Hk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAxjdincIng
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0qaD2JecZ0
Hope that helps. Lol.
Interceptor_Knight
Regular Member
The fact of the matter is, a JIC or any other pistol grip shotgun is not a "handgun". It is irrelevant that you "can" fire it with one hand. It is "intended" to be fired with 2 hands.
CalicoJack10
Regular Member
I think it is important to remember that there are still a lot of people who are scared to death that this new CCW law is going to turn this state into the wild west. Where we have shootouts in the streets and john rambo in the woods.
You should also remember that the woman that is running the DNR got the job with a resume that said "I hunt, and fish" and that was the deciding factor. She knows nothing about the job, but still thinks that she can just run the state parks deciding things on a whim.
Keep in mind I have many friends and family members that work for the DNR, so I have had the chance to meet the box of rocks that is trying to tell people how the DNR should run.
You should also remember that the woman that is running the DNR got the job with a resume that said "I hunt, and fish" and that was the deciding factor. She knows nothing about the job, but still thinks that she can just run the state parks deciding things on a whim.
Keep in mind I have many friends and family members that work for the DNR, so I have had the chance to meet the box of rocks that is trying to tell people how the DNR should run.
Motofixxer
Regular Member
I hunt and fish too......I will take 1 JOB PLEASE, with a side of CRAZY BENEFITS AND RETIREMENT for dessert
oak1971
Regular Member
I would abolish the DNR entirely. Its run and largely staffed by people diametrically opposed to the very activity the agency is tasked with regulating. Regulate this! :cuss:
