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    Wisconsin State Fair

    Instead of wasting all of our thoughts bantering back and forth with each other lets make our voices heard. I'm posting a link to the Wisconsin State Fair contact page. Please let them know how you feel in a polite manner.



    http://www.wistatefair.com/11_web/info/contact_us.html
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    Exclamation Notice How The NEWS Isn't Allowing "Comments" To Be Posted???

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    Yes, here we go again. Here is an appropriate video for this occasion: Time To Get A Gun http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f7EN...feature=digest
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outdoorsman1 View Post
    Yes. Though while I was at it I let them know their cream puffs are way overpriced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakon View Post
    Instead of wasting all of our thoughts bantering back and forth with each other lets make our voices heard. I'm posting a link to the Wisconsin State Fair contact page. Please let them know how you feel in a polite manner.



    http://www.wistatefair.com/11_web/info/contact_us.html


    Thank you for contacting us Packfanatic.

    We have implemented a new Youth Admission Policy, effective immediately. We are meeting with the State Patrol and local law enforcement about increasing police presence around the Fair Park.

    The new policy is as follows:

    1. All youth under the age of eighteen (18) years of age are required to be accompanied by a parent or legal guardian (age 21+) to be admitted to the Wisconsin State Fair after 5:00pm.

    2. Anyone age 18 years or over may be asked to show a valid driver’s license or state identification card for proof of age in order to be admitted to the Wisconsin State Fair without a parent or guardian after 5:00pm.

    3. Any young adult without a valid driver’s license or state identification card and not accompanied by a parent or guardian will not be admitted after 5:00pm.

    4. Exceptions and challenges to this policy will be satisfied at the discretion of Fair Management.

    Wisconsin State Fair Park Management

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    Quote Originally Posted by Packfanatic View Post
    Thank you for contacting us Packfanatic.

    We have implemented a new Youth Admission Policy, effective immediately. We are meeting with the State Patrol and local law enforcement about increasing police presence around the Fair Park.

    The new policy is as follows:

    1. All youth under the age of eighteen (18) years of age are required to be accompanied by a parent or legal guardian (age 21+) to be admitted to the Wisconsin State Fair after 5:00pm.

    2. Anyone age 18 years or over may be asked to show a valid driver’s license or state identification card for proof of age in order to be admitted to the Wisconsin State Fair without a parent or guardian after 5:00pm.

    3. Any young adult without a valid driver’s license or state identification card and not accompanied by a parent or guardian will not be admitted after 5:00pm.

    4. Exceptions and challenges to this policy will be satisfied at the discretion of Fair Management.

    Wisconsin State Fair Park Management
    They basically shot you a regurgitated copy of their bulletin.

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    The response I received followed by the initial email I sent


    Hi ##########,

    We do not allowed concealed weapons into the grounds and it has been posted that they are prohibited in the Fair Park for several years.

    In response to the incidents of last evening we have implemented a new youth admission policy which is attached. Further we have met with area law enforcement and the State Patrol to increase their presence around the Fair Park.

    Thank you,

    Fair Park Management


    I hope that those in charge will reconsider allowing concealed carry on the fairgrounds next summer. With violent incidents, like those that occurred on on near the fair yesterday, on the rise I can not in good conscience allow my family to attend when the ability to defend them has been taken away. As early reports demonstrate the police and security available was not enough to deter or prevent these events from taking place. It was just 2 years ago that the Mayor himself was a victim of an assault on the fairgrounds. Neither my family nor I will be the next victim like Barrett or any of those assaulted yesterday. Sadly my family will no longer be attending this yearly event until our rights to defend ourselves are restored.


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    Kind of weak but better than the canned version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rcawdor57 View Post
    Yes, here we go again. Here is an appropriate video for this occasion: Time To Get A Gun http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f7EN...feature=digest
    Sweet.....

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    yes they did

    Quote Originally Posted by Trip20 View Post
    They basically shot you a regurgitated copy of their bulletin.

    just like some of the boiler plate letters we all get from the people we hire (elect) to represent us. they did not even touch on my questions pertaining on how they plan to guarantee me, my wife's and my children's safety ah well at least they responded

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    Quote Originally Posted by Packfanatic
    We have implemented a new Youth Admission Policy...
    1. All youth under the age of eighteen (18) years of age are required to be accompanied by a parent or legal guardian (age 21+) to be admitted to the Wisconsin State Fair after 5pm.
    So if they get in before that, & stay, there's no parental supervision.
    How does that help?
    School is out, or they'll skip school, get there by 4, or 3, or 2...
    however early they make the cutoff.

    Here's how to contact the board of directors:
    Please direct all communication to the members of the Board of Directors to wsfp@wisconsin.gov and note in the email “subject” line “For WSFP Board of Directors”
    I used to really like going to the fair, usually mid-day, mid-week when there weren't as many people or as much noise. It's too dangerous to go now.

    Might have to find out about the little county fairs; they're probably more interesting & true to the "fair" experience anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MKEgal View Post
    So if they get in before that, & stay, there's no parental supervision.
    How does that help?
    School is out, or they'll skip school, get there by 4, or 3, or 2...
    however early they make the cutoff.

    Here's how to contact the board of directors:


    I used to really like going to the fair, usually mid-day, mid-week when there weren't as many people or as much noise. It's too dangerous to go now.

    Might have to find out about the little county fairs; they're probably more interesting & true to the "fair" experience anyway.
    yes i agree when i emailed i contacted the board. i did not bring up weapons but did write pertaining to me my wife and children's safety and got the typical boiler plate response. and i agree what is to
    stop the hoodlums from getting in at 430 or earlier and then wait until nighttime? how are the leo on the premises going to stop every kid and ask where is yo momma?
    this is not an effective way to handle the situation.

    what they need to do is if underage NOT let them into the fair or on the fair grounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Packfanatic View Post
    yes i agree when i emailed i contacted the board. i did not bring up weapons but did write pertaining to me my wife and children's safety and got the typical boiler plate response. and i agree what is to
    stop the hoodlums from getting in at 430 or earlier and then wait until nighttime? how are the leo on the premises going to stop every kid and ask where is yo momma?
    this is not an effective way to handle the situation.

    what they need to do is if underage NOT let them into the fair or on the fair grounds.
    While I agree with your sentiment- I would like to add that the State Fair should not be an "inner city" festival--just how agricultural is inner city Milwaukee???. In addition, certain entertainment that attracts hoodlums should not be invited to perform at the fair. This segment of the population has proven time and again that they are unable to enjoy an evening of peaceful entertainment. I would prefer the fair to be somewhere north of Madison, so people who purposefully choose not to live in amongst the hoodlums do not have to venture into/through/ or even near Milwaukee to enjoy their fair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MKEgal View Post
    So if they get in before that, & stay, there's no parental supervision.
    How does that help?
    School is out, or they'll skip school, get there by 4, or 3, or 2...
    however early they make the cutoff.

    Here's how to contact the board of directors:


    I used to really like going to the fair, usually mid-day, mid-week when there weren't as many people or as much noise. It's too dangerous to go now.

    Might have to find out about the little county fairs; they're probably more interesting & true to the "fair" experience anyway.


    Kenosha County Fair is coming up in 2 weeks... close to "The Range"....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MKEgal View Post
    I used to really like going to the fair, usually mid-day, mid-week when there weren't as many people or as much noise. It's too dangerous to go now.

    Might have to find out about the little county fairs; they're probably more interesting & true to the "fair" experience anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by Outdoorsman1 View Post
    Kenosha County Fair is coming up in 2 weeks... close to "The Range"....

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    I was going to mention that, too. I think MKEGal would enjoy our quaint little fair in Wilmot. The State Fair always seemed too commercialized to me - Kenosha, Racine, and Walworth counties all have great rural-style fairs that are much closer to a nostalgic Wisconsin experience.

    Besides, it just feels wrong to look at cattle, swine and poultry in the middle of the big city...
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    Quote Originally Posted by skorittnig View Post
    While I agree with your sentiment- I would like to add that the State Fair should not be an "inner city" festival--just how agricultural is inner city Milwaukee???. In addition, certain entertainment that attracts hoodlums should not be invited to perform at the fair. This segment of the population has proven time and again that they are unable to enjoy an evening of peaceful entertainment. I would prefer the fair to be somewhere north of Madison, so people who purposefully choose not to live in amongst the hoodlums do not have to venture into/through/ or even near Milwaukee to enjoy their fair.
    Oh my socialism....errr "social problems" professor wouldn't like you!!!!

    We're being indoctrinat.....errrr "learnded" that what you just said is "laissez-faire racism" and that it's not the poor inner city hoodlums .......errrr "troubled youths" that's the problem but the evil greedy big corporations that moved the jobs to the suburbs and "abandoned the poor inner cities" in search of higher profits while the bougeiouse........errrrr "selfish American taxpayers" refuse to open their wallets deep enough to copy.....errrr "learn" from the communis.....errr "Modern Democratic Socialist"

    countries that it is far superior to pay extrortion......errrrr "have a "more generous welfare state" so that the exploited inner city youths don't have to resort to crime.....errrrr "private wealth redistibution systems".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Have Gun - Will Carry View Post

    Besides, it just feels wrong to look at cattle, swine and poultry in the middle of the big city...
    Dude. Milwaukee chicks aren't that ugly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skorittnig View Post
    While I agree with your sentiment- I would like to add that the State Fair should not be an "inner city" festival--just how agricultural is inner city Milwaukee???. In addition, certain entertainment that attracts hoodlums should not be invited to perform at the fair. This segment of the population has proven time and again that they are unable to enjoy an evening of peaceful entertainment. I would prefer the fair to be somewhere north of Madison, so people who purposefully choose not to live in amongst the hoodlums do not have to venture into/through/ or even near Milwaukee to enjoy their fair.
    I live in the City of Milwaukee, and I have to agree 100%.

    We have seen enough to understand that the Wisconsin State fair is now a Milwaukee fair, and needs to be moved to a safer location. I would also agree that a more central location would help more of the people that the fair is supposed to be about. At this time I know more than a handful of people that would never even think about going to the current location. It is a true shame. Crime at "our" fair is not going to go down, until it is moved.
    IMO...

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