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    Baraboo Farm and Fleet OC information

    I went to Farm and Fleet this morning and did not OC. I have a couple of times in the past with out having any issues. Today I saw this employee whom I know has been there for over 20 years. We struck up a conversation and I asked about their policy on OCing in this store. She explained that they have not had any direction from corporate, they have no signs posted, and has seen me in the store with OC. When someone is OCing they notify the front desk and watch that individual. So far they have only had one person which she felt looked a bit shady so they followed him around. Eventually she talked with him and found him to be quite nomal.
    At this time it appears the Baraboo Farm and Fleet is OC friendly and I will continue to purchase ammo.
    On a side note I was also told that the higher majority of their employees, OC, and are in favor of OC and CC.
    From here on I will always OC while in their store.
    For what it is worth, this was a good day.

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    Farm and Fleet is anti-2A, Anti-OC, corporate policy is NO guns, and they are on the boycott list.

    Unless they changed their policy last week?

    "Thank you for your inquiry. Blain's Farm & Fleet does have a "Weapons Free Environment" policy. Our policy reads in part, "To safeguard our employees, our customers and the general public, we absolutely prohibit any employee, vendor, supplier or customer to bring or possess firearms (including but not limited to handguns, regardless of any authorized permit), explosives or any dangerous weapons or objects on Blain's Farm & Fleet premises or at Blain's Farm & Fleet sponsored events."

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    Blain's Farm and Fleet is anti-carry. Buy your ammo online at Georgia Arms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theoicarry View Post
    I went to Farm and Fleet this morning and did not OC. I have a couple of times in the past with out having any issues. Today I saw this employee whom I know has been there for over 20 years. We struck up a conversation and I asked about their policy on OCing in this store. She explained that they have not had any direction from corporate, they have no signs posted, and has seen me in the store with OC. When someone is OCing they notify the front desk and watch that individual. So far they have only had one person which she felt looked a bit shady so they followed him around. Eventually she talked with him and found him to be quite nomal.
    At this time it appears the Baraboo Farm and Fleet is OC friendly and I will continue to purchase ammo.
    On a side note I was also told that the higher majority of their employees, OC, and are in favor of OC and CC.
    From here on I will always OC while in their store.
    For what it is worth, this was a good day.

    Stay Warm!!!
    That is the way it was for me at the Farm & Fleet in Hallie, I have OD'd there more than 50 times, until another open carrier that never had an issue at the store heard about the policy and went to the costumer service and asked. Two days later I was asked to take my firearm to my vehicle. I handed the manager my basket and told him that I won't spend another penny here.

    You can go ahead and OC and spend money there, I repsect your choice. But the feelings I am experiencing right now, I understand the negative sentiment towards me when I wrote that I OC and spend money at a store that is on the boycott list just because I was not ever kicked out of this specific store.

    I expect I will excercise more solidarity with fellow open carriers in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HandyHamlet View Post
    Farm and Fleet is anti-2A, Anti-OC, corporate policy is NO guns, and they are on the boycott list.

    Unless they changed their policy last week?
    I am just passing along what apparently is going on in Baraboo Farm and Fleet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theoicarry
    When someone is OCing they notify the front desk and watch that individual. So far they have only had one person which she felt looked a bit shady so they followed him around.
    Wow.
    Monitored (probably by camera), & even followed around?
    I'd be pretty PO'd if they did that to me.
    When I noticed the tail, I'd ask why,
    or stand & stare at them until they either talked with me or went away,
    or at the very least I'd slowly cover every inch of the store to waste as much of their time as possible.

    Or even, if I were in a mood, get close enough to get their name, then go to cust. svc. to talk w/ the manager on duty to report that this employee seems to have nothing better to do than walk around the store with me, so maybe s/he could be sent home for the day to save money.

    Quote Originally Posted by Farm & Fleet
    "To safeguard our employees, our customers and the general public, we absolutely prohibit any employee, vendor, supplier or customer to bring or possess firearms (including but not limited to handguns, regardless of any authorized permit), explosives or any dangerous weapons or objects on Blain's Farm & Fleet premises or at Blain's Farm & Fleet sponsored events."
    So they don't sell firearms or ammunition any more?
    Because that would violate the rule 3 times: vendors, employees, & customers.
    And they have metal detectors & armed guards before someone enters the store, to make sure everyone is vulnerable & stop criminals from entering?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BROKENSPROKET View Post
    That is the way it was for me at the Farm & Fleet in Hallie, I have OD'd there more than 50 times...
    Wow! I know you are pro-legalization but shouldn't you think about getting some help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brass Magnet View Post
    Wow! I know you are pro-legalization but shouldn't you think about getting some help?

    LOL
    Ooops. Now that's funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MKEgal View Post
    Wow.
    Monitored (probably by camera), & even followed around?
    I'd be pretty PO'd if they did that to me.
    When I noticed the tail, I'd ask why,
    or stand & stare at them until they either talked with me or went away,
    or at the very least I'd slowly cover every inch of the store to waste as much of their time as possible.

    Or even, if I were in a mood, get close enough to get their name, then go to cust. svc. to talk w/ the manager on duty to report that this employee seems to have nothing better to do than walk around the store with me, so maybe s/he could be sent home for the day to save money.


    Before I start, I did offer an apology on FB for the 941.235 v 941.20. I was wrong.

    If a store employee is following you around the store, it would be sensless to talk with the manager. I am sure that management is the responsible party for that security protocol. If they want to follow you around the store, there is nothing you can do but accept it or leave. There is alot of people that have never seen an open carrier and several stores are adjusting. Personally, I would rather have a tail than be disrupted being asked to leave.

    I will bet it happens in alot of stores and you don't even know it. You walk into Wal-Mart and they will follow you on video the whole time. My cousin is a manager at one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BROKENSPROKET View Post
    That is the way it was for me at the Farm & Fleet in Hallie, I have OD'd there more than 50 times, until another open carrier that never had an issue at the store heard about the policy and went to the costumer service and asked. Two days later I was asked to take my firearm to my vehicle. I handed the manager my basket and told him that I won't spend another penny here.

    You can go ahead and OC and spend money there, I repsect your choice. But the feelings I am experiencing right now, I understand the negative sentiment towards me when I wrote that I OC and spend money at a store that is on the boycott list just because I was not ever kicked out of this specific store.

    I expect I will excercise more solidarity with fellow open carriers in the future.
    Thanks. :-)

    Now, I was the first one who was pretty much kicked out of THIS store after buying roughly $400 in ammo. The girl at the checkout charged me for an extra box of ammo, I wasnt about to pay for an extra box and not get it. I asked for my money back, and she said to go to the service desk. I waited there for 20 minutes, with the managers all looking at me and standing around. Finally, I told them what the problem was. They had to go count the ammo sitting on the floor, to make sure I wasnt lying. What if someone else in the store bought a box? Either way, I got my refund, and the manager asked me to "leave that in the car next time". (That being my lawfully carried firearm.)
    The next week I went to pick up a new shotgun at gander in Baraboo. I stopped into f&f to ask if it was corporate policy or just a manager that didnt know/care for firearms. I was told it was in fact corporate policy. I asked for a number for a "higher up", contacted him (as did many others on this forum. Thank you all by the way.) Found out it was. I will NEVER go into a f&f EVER again.
    Bottom line, if you want to shop there, I will not try to stop you. But I will also never stand up with you if something goes wrong and you need support. I will agree they do have great prices on ammo. But Gander Mountain just down the road will price match. That sealed the deal for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mlutz View Post
    Thanks. :-)

    Now, I was the first one who was pretty much kicked out of THIS store after buying roughly $400 in ammo. The girl at the checkout charged me for an extra box of ammo, I wasnt about to pay for an extra box and not get it. I asked for my money back, and she said to go to the service desk. I waited there for 20 minutes, with the managers all looking at me and standing around. Finally, I told them what the problem was. They had to go count the ammo sitting on the floor, to make sure I wasnt lying. What if someone else in the store bought a box? Either way, I got my refund, and the manager asked me to "leave that in the car next time". (That being my lawfully carried firearm.)
    The next week I went to pick up a new shotgun at gander in Baraboo. I stopped into f&f to ask if it was corporate policy or just a manager that didnt know/care for firearms. I was told it was in fact corporate policy. I asked for a number for a "higher up", contacted him (as did many others on this forum. Thank you all by the way.) Found out it was. I will NEVER go into a f&f EVER again.
    Bottom line, if you want to shop there, I will not try to stop you. But I will also never stand up with you if something goes wrong and you need support. I will agree they do have great prices on ammo. But Gander Mountain just down the road will price match. That sealed the deal for me.
    Apparently there is some lack of information among employees and management.
    I will no longer shop there as well
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    No judging here... this is just how I personally choose to handle these things...

    If I have successfully carried somewhere in the past, I would never ask an employee/manager about their firearm/carry policy. It's an assumed "yes" until told otherwise and I don't want to give them the perfect opportunity to tell me "no". This is especially the case with an employee. An uninformed employee's opinion is not something I'm interested in challenging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trip20 View Post
    No judging here... this is just how I personally choose to handle these things...

    If I have successfully carried somewhere in the past, I would never ask an employee/manager about their firearm/carry policy. It's an assumed "yes" until told otherwise and I don't want to give them the perfect opportunity to tell me "no". This is especially the case with an employee. An uninformed employee's opinion is not something I'm interested in challenging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trip20 View Post
    No judging here... this is just how I personally choose to handle these things...

    If I have successfully carried somewhere in the past, I would never ask an employee/manager about their firearm/carry policy. It's an assumed "yes" until told otherwise and I don't want to give them the perfect opportunity to tell me "no". This is especially the case with an employee. An uninformed employee's opinion is not something I'm interested in challenging.
    If this was directed at me, I had oc'd there a few times prior to being asked not to carry. After I was asked, I returned to ask for further info.

    If this wasn't for me, please disregard this post. Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mlutz View Post
    If this was directed at me, I had oc'd there a few times prior to being asked not to carry. After I was asked, I returned to ask for further info.

    If this wasn't for me, please disregard this post. Lol.
    Not directed at you

    It was a general statement as to how I avoid conversations about open carry with store associates in locations where I've successfully carried.

    A situation like yours (if I'm reading it correctly) where I'm being confronted and asked not to carry... I would typically do what you did, which is go higher in the food chain for further clarification on the store/corporate policy.

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    looked a bit shady

    Quote Originally Posted by theoicarry View Post
    I went to Farm and Fleet this morning and did not OC. I have a couple of times in the past with out having any issues. Today I saw this employee whom I know has been there for over 20 years. We struck up a conversation and I asked about their policy on OCing in this store. She explained that they have not had any direction from corporate, they have no signs posted, and has seen me in the store with OC. When someone is OCing they notify the front desk and watch that individual. So far they have only had one person which she felt looked a bit shady so they followed him around. Eventually she talked with him and found him to be quite nomal.
    At this time it appears the Baraboo Farm and Fleet is OC friendly and I will continue to purchase ammo.
    On a side note I was also told that the higher majority of their employees, OC, and are in favor of OC and CC.
    From here on I will always OC while in their store.
    For what it is worth, this was a good day.

    Stay Warm!!!

    This isn't true, the person who looked a bit shady was me and they kicked me out, I'm bald and have barb wire tatoo's on both arms, however, even though I look shady, I'm a retired Federal Law Enforcement Officer. Yes, they are OC unfriendly in Baraboo. I was also the one the Baraboo police kept stoping for OCing several times. I don't live there anymore, moved to Madison, and then to Lodi.

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    Haven't seen you on in a while Don. Welcome back!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyridn View Post
    This isn't true, the person who looked a bit shady was me and they kicked me out, I'm bald and have barb wire tatoo's on both arms, however, even though I look shady, I'm a retired Federal Law Enforcement Officer. Yes, they are OC unfriendly in Baraboo. I was also the one the Baraboo police kept stoping for OCing several times. I don't live there anymore, moved to Madison, and then to Lodi.

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    Hey Don
    Last time I saw you was at the West Baraboo oc last September. You did not look shady to me. Of course there was sun, so most of us stood in the shade.
    I guess I am done with this store. Tempted to oc there on Saturday! Just because.
    Either they allow it or do not?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by theoicarry View Post
    Hey Don
    Last time I saw you was at the West Baraboo oc last September. You did not look shady to me. Of course there was sun, so most of us stood in the shade.
    I guess I am done with this store. Tempted to oc there on Saturday! Just because.
    Either they allow it or do not?????
    Ted
    I'm not sure how I can make this absolutely clear other than this...

    "Thank you for your inquiry. Blain's Farm & Fleet does have a "Weapons Free Environment" policy. Our policy reads in part, "To safeguard our employees, our customers and the general public, we absolutely prohibit any employee, vendor, supplier or customer to bring or possess firearms (including but not limited to handguns, regardless of any authorized permit), explosives or any dangerous weapons or objects on Blain's Farm & Fleet premises or at Blain's Farm & Fleet sponsored events."


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    They DO NOT ALLOW IT! It is a corporate policy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theoicarry View Post
    Hey Don
    Last time I saw you was at the West Baraboo oc last September. You did not look shady to me. Of course there was sun, so most of us stood in the shade.
    I guess I am done with this store. Tempted to oc there on Saturday! Just because.
    Either they allow it or do not?????
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    Farm and Fleet = we hate America! I will never shop there, thanks for the info and the link to Georgia Arms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by santana View Post
    Blain's Farm and Fleet is an excellent Wisconsin based chain of stores, soon to open one in northern Illinois. They do not hate anyone. The small percentage of people carrying weapons who do not want to leave em in their vehicle will have no impact on their business.
    Why go to farm and fleet, when we can go to fleet farm where they support and allow OC and eventually CCW. While there may be a smaller percentage of people now who would like to OC, the percentage who will want to CCW will be much greater. So come november, farm and fleet is going to lose even MORE customers.

    I would not call farm and fleet an excellent store.

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    Quote Originally Posted by santana View Post
    Blain's Farm and Fleet is an excellent Wisconsin based chain of stores, soon to open one in northern Illinois. They do not hate anyone. The small percentage of people carrying weapons who do not want to leave em in their vehicle will have no impact on their business.
    How would you like it if they said, "No black people," "No children allowed," "No silly hats," etc, etc, etc? They all discriminate against people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by santana View Post
    Blain's Farm and Fleet is an excellent Wisconsin based chain of stores, soon to open one in northern Illinois. They do not hate anyone.
    Blain's Farm and Fleet is and has been in IL since I can remember. I used to travel an hour to go to their DeKalb/Sycamore store. It was my fav store. I bought EVERYTHING there. As they began to open more stores in IL they became just another Target or Wally World. No more Farm. Or Fleet. Just yuppified Carharts and Work-N-Sport boots.

    In short Blaine's Farm and Fleet SUCKS.

    The small percentage of people carrying weapons who do not want to leave em in their vehicle will have no impact on their business.
    Why exactly are you here again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by santana View Post
    Blain's Farm and Fleet is an excellent Wisconsin based chain of stores, soon to open one in northern Illinois. They do not hate anyone. The small percentage of people carrying weapons who do not want to leave em in their vehicle will have no impact on their business.
    They have lost tens of thousands of dollars is sales already in the state of Wisconsin because of thier policy. That is hardly no impact. They may just believe that the ECONOMY is hitting them harder than it really is.
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