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    Well I was out and shopping at the mall and was asked many times if I was a cop. I replied no I am OC and it is legal in WI. Then was at Walmart on east side at about 9pm with my wife and 2 kids, and a drunk man and woman cornered me and my family and yelled, "Are you a cop?" As I was trying to help my autistic son, they both yelled again and I replied, "Are you a criminal?" My wife said she could hear the man say, "Oh, tough guy," as they walked away. I know I could have just said no I am not and went on my way, but I do not like drunk people stopping me and yelling at me and my family.
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    Glad they didn't try anything and escalate it any further. It was wise to get away from them.

    By the way, all the typos hurt my head.
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    I can handle anti-gunners, but drunk people scare me because the can do stupid and illogical things. There have been 2 times that I have chosen not to OC even when it was legal just because of the number of drunks that were outside the beer tent. That is when I know I will be around people who are drinking. I would not expect that to happen at Wal-Mart. I would have called store security.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssmits View Post
    .....I know i could of get seed no i am not and went on my way but i do not like drunk people stoping me and yelling at me and my faimly .
    I hope you called 911.... or at least were prepared to if they returned..
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    How about these suggestions for response:

    1. None of your business.

    2. Sorry I don't play the 20 questions game.

    3. If you think I'm commiting a crime ... call the police.

    What do others have for suggestions?

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    Stay out of China Mart..I mean Ghetto mart ? I know this must have been a stressful encounter & I am certainly not trying to make light of it...But certain stores attract a less classy form of shopper NOT saying that your not a classy person. I have been to Wally world only 2x in my life & both times the Ghetto Rats were well represented....I now just refuse to shop there...regardless of their pro Carry policy... plus they are the #1 importer of Chinese made goods in the USA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glock34 View Post
    Stay out of China Mart..I mean Ghetto mart ? I know this must have been a stressful encounter & I am certainly not trying to make light of it...But certain stores attract a less classy form of shopper NOT saying that your not a classy person. I have been to Wally world only 2x in my life & both times the Ghetto Rats were well represented....I now just refuse to shop there...regardless of their pro Carry policy... plus they are the #1 importer of Chinese made goods in the USA
    not all of us can afford to be as classy as you Glock34...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schlitz View Post
    not all of us can afford to be as classy as you Glock34...
    Actually we can't afford to NOT be as classy as Glock.

    Look where eating fake drive-up cheeseburgers, giving our money to big box stores, and supporting China has gotten us. Sh*t food, poisoned plastic junk and Corporations running our lives.

    Buy local and support Ma and Pa shops or die a slave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schlitz View Post
    not all of us can afford to be as classy as you Glock34...

    Thanks Hamlet..I guess thier are only a few Patriots left in this country, that know the difference...


    Every single chineses made item that is bought by Americans ...Strengthens the Chinese economy & weakens the American economy.. Global free trade means only one thing..eventually the American worker will be working for FREE

    I can NOT believe this UNPATRIOTIC PC Sheeple Population of The USA a once proud & great nation can't see that !

    I would rather pay a few bucks more for MADE IN THE USA & support THIS ECONOMY that buy made in CHINA...

    So go ahead keep going to WALMART then at least YOU know who to blame for this rotten economy..yup YOURSELF

    Do you know what China is doing with all those Hundreds & Hundreds of Billions / Trillions of dollars that foolish Americans are giving them when you buy thier products ??? They are currently in the process of building a Blue Water Navy that will rival our own in 15 years...they throw over HALF their GDP at the Military. The want to be able to project their Military Power Globally & once that happens...The Mighty USA will not be the BIG boy with the Biggest stick anymore... Then comes potential China calling in our Debt, Military posturing,Naval Blockades, Tiawan get's invaded OUR ALLIE, maybe Invasion of the US Mainland itself with China's 5 million man Army or WW 3 all because the American People & American corporations were, stupid, short sighted & Greedy... Congrats America

    What ever happened to AMERICAN NATIONAL PRIDE ???? >>> GREED > NAFTA & CAFTA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schlitz View Post
    not all of us can afford to be as classy as you Glock34...
    I made less than $30,000 last year..you silly Moron ! & currently on track to make even less this year..Booking are down, People are not spending what they did because they are out of work, In Debt...BAD ECONOMY... caused by ....Yup >>>> YOU <<<< guessed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glock34 View Post
    I made less than $30,000 last year..you silly Moron ! & currently on track to make even less this year..Booking are down, People are not spending what they did because they are out of work, In Debt...BAD ECONOMY... caused by ....Yup >>>> YOU <<<< guessed it.

    Name calling...when you have an argument that can't be supported by logic or evidence...You call people names, like "silly moron."

    It's sad because I was just joking, just a little snip. Thick skin people, come on.

    When I can afford it, I might spend a little more at a "mom and pop shop." I can't always do that. When I can't, I go to wal-mart. I have to feed my family. The chinese aren't coming to the mainland.


    On a side note:
    I have a Chinese Mandarin books sitting on my desk at work, people come by and say, "whats that for?" I tell them it is for when china comes to claim their assets since we cannot pay off our debt lol.
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    There is nothing wrong with walmarts. These were a couple of drunk aholes who wanted to create fear. This is a known downside to open carry as a possibility of something that can happen.

    I would have used my verbal judo skills in a non combative way unlike the OP. Learning and using your verbal skills properly could protect you and your family instead of putting them in more danger by using combative tones and language.

    Situational awareness and verbal skills are some of your most important skills. I'd highly recommend getting a book or taking a class at your community college and most importantly practice them with your training.

    I'm glad you and your family are safe
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    this is about OC not about wallmart

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssmits View Post
    this is about OC not about wallmart
    I hate Walmart, but +1,000. Rants on global economics belong in a different forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schlitz View Post
    Name calling...when you have an argument that can't be supported by logic or evidence...You call people names, like "silly moron."

    It's sad because I was just joking, just a little snip. Thick skin people, come on.

    When I can afford it, I might spend a little more at a "mom and pop shop." I can't always do that. When I can't, I go to wal-mart. I have to feed my family. The chinese aren't coming to the mainland.


    On a side note:
    I have a Chinese Mandarin books sitting on my desk at work, people come by and say, "whats that for?" I tell them it is for when china comes to claim their assets since we cannot pay off our debt lol.



    an argument that can't be supported by logic or evidence.. ??????????????? What are you really that blind, lacking intellect & not up on Current events..Everything I said was & is Logical & backed up by a TON of real world evdince...dammm ...what have you been living in a closet for the last 15 years ?????? LMAO


    Jokes need to be followed by...the little smiley face or ( just kidding ) with out those two things..It's not funny.

    The Chinese are not coming ??? ...they are already here & own 25% of this country....WOW..

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    Please support your local,county, state & Federal Law enforcement agencies, right ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssmits View Post
    this is about OC not about wallmart
    The OP is about OC - the thread is not inappropriate, not withstanding the rants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssmits View Post
    this is about OC not about wallmart


    Well, if you had been supporting your community, neighbors, local farmers, and local businesses there would be no need for your thread now would there? Because you never would have been in Wallyworld in the first place.

    It's pretty basic stuff. Eat sh*t, buy sh*t, live a sh*tty life is a corporate slave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glock34 View Post
    an argument that can't be supported by logic or evidence.. ??????????????? What are you really that blind, lacking intellect & not up on Current events..Everything I said was & is Logical & backed up by a TON of real world evdince...dammm ...what have you been living in a closet for the last 15 years ?????? LMAO


    Jokes need to be followed by...the little smiley face or ( just kidding ) with out those two things..It's not funny.

    The Chinese are not coming ??? ...they are already here & own 25% of this country....WOW..
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    I heard that China has bought 25 sq. miles in Ohio to set up a city that will have it's own sovereignty. For the chinese to manufacture chinese goods on chinese soil inside the USA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BROKENSPROKET View Post
    I heard that China has bought 25 sq. miles in Ohio to set up a city that will have it's own soveitnty. For the chinese to manufacture chinese goods on chinese soil inside the USA.
    Presume you mean sovereignty - let me know how that works out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BROKENSPROKET View Post
    I heard that China has bought 25 sq. miles in Ohio to set up a city that will have it's own sovereignty. For the chinese to manufacture chinese goods on chinese soil inside the USA.
    I don't think China can do that~~They essentially would just have private property but still be subject to local, state, and federal laws, including labor laws.

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    Originally Posted by BROKENSPROKET

    I heard that China has bought 25 sq. miles in Ohio to set up a city that will have it's own sovereignty. For the chinese to manufacture chinese goods on chinese soil inside the USA.
    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    I don't think China can do that~~They essentially would just have private property but still be subject to local, state, and federal laws, including labor laws.
    Such is done with embassies of foreign nations, but do not see this as qualifying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    I don't think China can do that~~They essentially would just have private property but still be subject to local, state, and federal laws, including labor laws.
    From what I understand is that the Ohio Legislature is partnering with the Chinese Gov.

    I honestly don't know if it true. I just read about it and can't remember where.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    I don't think China can do that~~They essentially would just have private property but still be subject to local, state, and federal laws, including labor laws.
    While I hadn't heard anything about this and it seems really quite far fetched, you forget that was have Obama in the WH and he would certainly have no problem with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glock34 View Post
    an argument that can't be supported by logic or evidence.. ??????????????? What are you really that blind, lacking intellect & not up on Current events..Everything I said was & is Logical & backed up by a TON of real world evdince...dammm ...what have you been living in a closet for the last 15 years ?????? LMAO


    Jokes need to be followed by...the little smiley face or ( just kidding ) with out those two things..It's not funny.

    The Chinese are not coming ??? ...they are already here & own 25% of this country....WOW..
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    I'm just saying, when you result to name calling you lose any credibility you had going. Usually name calling is a last resort for people who have no support for their argument.

    China doesn't need to put troops on our mainland to get control of their assets. The liberals running our country will just have our servicemen/women enforce the Chinese orders handed to us from their government. Our police forces already enforce unconstitutional laws, this just shows that they are fine with following any orders they receive from above them.
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    In which of the United States of America are Glocks made,Glock34 ?

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