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    Being yelled at while carrying!!

    I have been sick with the flu and I haven't left my house in 5 days. Today I felt a little better even though I still have a cough and I decided to go to my local Smiths grocery store located on Eastern and Windmill. A little back story here. I have been shopping here since I moved to Henderson almost 3 years ago. I pretty much know everybody who works there. Anyways I was giving the butcher my order when I hear a woman's voice say "excuse me sir, I have a concerned shopper." I responded with "well that doesn't sound too fun." It turns out she is the head manager and she smiled at my response even though we both knew what it was all about. She then asked if I had a permit and I explained that in Nevada you don't have to have one but that it is registered and I am legally carrying. She said o.k. and started to walk away.

    Whew! What a relief! Last time there was a concerned shopper Henderson PD met me outside for one of the shortest police encounters I have ever had. Still feeling like crap and waiting for the butcher to wrap my stuff up I hear a mans voice now. "YOU CAN'T JUST COME IN HERE WITH A GUN!" Well the manager is still next to me and the look on her face was priceless. He continues with his rant loud enough for everyone to hear, "WE NEED HENDERSON POLICE HERE, THIS IS AMERICA, YOU CAN'T JUST CARRY A GUN AND GET GROCERIES! WE HAVE LAWS!" This guy is mad. Almost comically mad. His wife is giving the look of "hey I don't know this guy". The manager tells him to calm down. The butcher is now fumbling my meat behind the counter and everyone is staring at us!

    I start to grow a smile for some reason. Maybe it was because this guy is getting trolled so bad, or maybe because we still have freedoms and people like this guy who want to take away our Rights are dullards and lunatics. I don't want to look like an ******* or agitate this encounter or make OC'rs look like ****** so I didn't respond at first. I just wanted my meat and to get home and lie down. I finally get my order from the butcher and thank him. As I'm walking away liberal law school Larry gets out his cell phone and threatens me that I shouldn't go anywhere and that the police are on their way. I responded with "well, let me know how that works out for you" with a smile. The manager tells us that she will go look the law up herself and notify HPD if I am breaking any laws. As she starts to walk away she smiles at me and gives me a wink!

    An aisle over I can still hear this guy. He is a genius. He is talking to his wife explaining that he knows you can have a gun in public but you can't go into private business. It is illegal and he knows it! With all that excitement I forgot to get lettuce. I told my sister the story and she said she would return to the store for me since I didn't feel well. She asked the manager on her way out if the police ever showed up. The manager told her nope. They only called the store to ask if everything was o.k. because they got a call about a man with a gun. The manager told them everything was o.k. and that was the end of that.

    I think that says a lot when HPD calls first to see if it is a problem before wasting everyones time and safety racing to the scene of a MWAG call. It also feels good that guns are still acceptable here and thanks to the hard work and activism from a lot of the members here who I do not always agree with, I can still exercise my freedoms. Oh how I do not miss California at all.

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    I'd hate that even if I felt good, but not enough to stop carrying.

    It takes all kinds - ignorant and loud included. Would have been good if he had been told to not return.
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    I think the best would have been for YOU to break out your phone, call the local PD yourself, and report that you are being harassed by an angry possibly unstable individual about your openly carried legal firearm all while the TROLL listens in to you and your call!

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    "Let me get this straight -- you're afraid of guns, so you're trying to make a guy with a gun MAD at you???"

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    Quote Originally Posted by DVC View Post
    "Let me get this straight -- you're afraid of guns, so you're trying to make a guy with a gun MAD at you???"
    I know right? Not too smart on his part.

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    All you wanted was meat and lettuce?......Luckly Derrick Colling didn't come after ya....haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by greengum View Post
    "WE NEED HENDERSON POLICE HERE, THIS IS AMERICA, YOU CAN'T JUST CARRY A GUN AND GET GROCERIES! WE HAVE LAWS!"
    My goodness. Just another citizen of the land of the free, home of the brave, LOL.
    Last edited by 77zach; 08-11-2011 at 09:11 PM.
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    I don't "need" to openly carry a handgun or own an "assault weapon" any more than Rosa Parks needed a seat on the bus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 77zach View Post
    My goodness. Just another citizen of the land of the free, home of the brave, LOL.
    Just another City-Zen........
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    I am not surprised to hear about these type of people. A lot of the time I just want to ask them if they even know ANY of laws that concern with gun control. The fact the guy stated you cant carry in a private business.....what in the hell was he thinking! People like that make me sick, and the fact this guy couldn't back his own ass up even if he tried to makes it even worse! I love idiots who yell that type of information knowing that they themselves probably have no clue about any gun laws. I would just file him under "Anti-Gun Nut"....but that's just me.
    Last edited by DWCook; 08-11-2011 at 10:38 PM.
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    I like the response you did with the manager. The good news is with your clever way of handling and informing her, you managed to instruct her no the laws and to be more comfortable with a civilian carrying a legal gun. In my mind, that is a home run for open carry PR.

    She also saw the classic anti gun moron actions, seeing a sample of what we have to deal with exercising our rights. I would say the score is one brain dead loud mouth who, well, is still a brain dead loud month, no real loss and one store manager who is now in line with open carry. A benefit to other open carry persons that will shop at her store and hopefully she will pass on her newly acquired information.
    Last edited by 28kfps; 08-12-2011 at 01:02 PM.

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    When are you guys going to remember to whip out the handy dandy "smart" phone and video these people? I haven't come across a crazy anti like that yet. I'm kinda curious as to what they would do to being video taped. Something tells me it would be priceless.

    Edit: Turns out this was my 666th post. :insertdevilsmileyhere:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabotage70 View Post
    When are you guys going to remember to whip out the handy dandy "smart" phone and video these people? I haven't come across a crazy anti like that yet. I'm kinda curious as to what they would do to being video taped. Something tells me it would be priceless.

    Edit: Turns out this was my 666th post. :insertdevilsmileyhere:

    That would be great video these idiots and ask them were we can send them a copy or do they just want to wait until the movie "Uniformed Idiot Socialist Zombies" comes out.

    It would make me laugh if it wasn't sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabotage70 View Post
    When are you guys going to remember to whip out the handy dandy "smart" phone and video these people? I haven't come across a crazy anti like that yet. I'm kinda curious as to what they would do to being video taped. Something tells me it would be priceless.

    Edit: Turns out this was my 666th post. :insertdevilsmileyhere:
    Suitable, you evil gun totin' open carry crazy you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Just another City-Zen........
    Or d***.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunslinger View Post
    Or d***.
    Can't we use the more formal form "Richard"?

    It is decidedly less offensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Can't we use the more formal form "Richard"?

    It is decidedly less offensive.
    For formals, use the honorific of "Mr. Cranium."
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    "WE NEED HENDERSON POLICE HERE, THIS IS AMERICA, YOU CAN'T JUST CARRY A GUN AND GET GROCERIES! WE HAVE LAWS!"
    Ya'll have laws against getting groceries in Nevada? Dang!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeSparky View Post
    I think the best would have been for YOU to break out your phone, call the local PD yourself, and report that you are being harassed by an angry possibly unstable individual about your openly carried legal firearm all while the TROLL listens in to you and your call!
    My thoughts exactly. I would have done it as soon as he showed anger. Just in case things went sour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greengum View Post
    "WE NEED HENDERSON POLICE HERE, THIS IS AMERICA, YOU CAN'T JUST CARRY A GUN AND GET GROCERIES! WE HAVE LAWS!"
    Priceless
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    "WE NEED HENDERSON POLICE HERE, THIS IS AMERICA, YOU CAN'T JUST CARRY A GUN AND GET GROCERIES! WE HAVE LAWS!"


    That characterization right there is why this is as much a PR campaign as it is a Right.
    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobarino View Post
    Ya'll have laws against getting groceries in Nevada? Dang!
    The latest campaign from Moo-chelle . . .

    At least MARIE said that we could eat CAKE . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by greengum View Post
    She then asked if I had a permit and I explained that in Nevada you don't have to have one but that it is registered and I am legally carrying.
    I think you handled your encounter with the lunatic fantastically, but I would have left this out. I understand that because you live in benighted Clark County, they do require registration, but you may have given rise to the impression that such registration is required statewide, or nationally. Several times a year, I have to explain that no registration is required to people who are absolutely convinced that there is a master list of gun owners somewhere, or that such a list would do something to help prevent crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobarino View Post
    Ya'll have laws against getting groceries in Nevada? Dang!
    I know, and it sucks cause I'm getting hungry.
    Last edited by MRSmithEsq; 08-13-2011 at 02:46 PM.

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    We do try to have a once a month open carry lunch. I guess we could start a once a month open carry grocery shopping meet up to protest those laws. We can carry pamphlets with the YOU CAN'T JUST CARRY A GUN AND GET GROCERIES NRS. I believe the number is O-U812.

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    I understand that OC while grocery shoppin' is considered "special circumstance" if you also use coupons.

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