neuroblades
Regular Member
I have been working hard in the Eastern Kentucky area to promote a positive public image for Open Carry and while I have encountered a rare few that are still totally opposed to it or disapprove of the fact that I carry daily, I have not laid down the fight. In the beginning, I had met with some resistance from thos in my workplace and had been "warned off" even though there are no signs posted but I never let this hinder my efforts and just went about it in a different fashion till now, I have won over the minds of some of those that had been strictly opposed to open carry.
Here's the issue and the situation, perhaps someone on here that might know more about this issue can enlighten me. One of my manager's, the one that strictly warned me off previously, is slowly becoming a convert to the OC lifestyle. He has warmed up to the idea of carrying and what it really means to be armed and self-defense. Alot of this happened though after his house was robbed a few weeks back! If I remember the timeline of all this correctly, his house got robbed and a few days later is when he decided to purchase a weapon for self-defense. Though it's definitely not the best choice, definitely not my first choice, he purchased a Hi-Point .380 for a great price though. The purchase was through an FFL dealer and the 4473 was done with no problems.
A couple of days ago he went out and was looking at a Phoenix .22 for plinking. Well, when they went to run the 4473, it was rejected! I know all the reasons that this could've happened but he doesn't fit any of those red flags, NONE! Besides, had he had any issues, they would've been encountered when they ran his initial paperwork on the .380 about 2 weeks ago. The FFL dealer told him to come back on the 16th and they could sell it to him. This DOES NOT sound like any BATFE issue to me but something about the dealer, wouldn't you tend to agree? He said that the dealer had told him that they had no idea why it was rejected this time but that they had had their shipments held up in delivery due to the ATF. Due to the nature of this, I will not mention the name of the dealer but I'll just say that I have refused to deal with them since the change in ownership some years back and the outrageous prices they over charge on their weapons.
So, if anyone has any insight into the possibilities why his paperwork would've been rejected please post. This gentleman has a clean record with the exception of a public intoxication over some 35 years ago and perhaps a random speeding ticket in his youth. But definitely none of the issues that would cause his 4473 to be rejected.
Here's the issue and the situation, perhaps someone on here that might know more about this issue can enlighten me. One of my manager's, the one that strictly warned me off previously, is slowly becoming a convert to the OC lifestyle. He has warmed up to the idea of carrying and what it really means to be armed and self-defense. Alot of this happened though after his house was robbed a few weeks back! If I remember the timeline of all this correctly, his house got robbed and a few days later is when he decided to purchase a weapon for self-defense. Though it's definitely not the best choice, definitely not my first choice, he purchased a Hi-Point .380 for a great price though. The purchase was through an FFL dealer and the 4473 was done with no problems.
A couple of days ago he went out and was looking at a Phoenix .22 for plinking. Well, when they went to run the 4473, it was rejected! I know all the reasons that this could've happened but he doesn't fit any of those red flags, NONE! Besides, had he had any issues, they would've been encountered when they ran his initial paperwork on the .380 about 2 weeks ago. The FFL dealer told him to come back on the 16th and they could sell it to him. This DOES NOT sound like any BATFE issue to me but something about the dealer, wouldn't you tend to agree? He said that the dealer had told him that they had no idea why it was rejected this time but that they had had their shipments held up in delivery due to the ATF. Due to the nature of this, I will not mention the name of the dealer but I'll just say that I have refused to deal with them since the change in ownership some years back and the outrageous prices they over charge on their weapons.
So, if anyone has any insight into the possibilities why his paperwork would've been rejected please post. This gentleman has a clean record with the exception of a public intoxication over some 35 years ago and perhaps a random speeding ticket in his youth. But definitely none of the issues that would cause his 4473 to be rejected.