I am not really opposed to this, but I think it could be a little sketchy and not sure it is going to produce results.
Any officer Who reads the Minutes Will Be informed.
EX. If Department X has 100 officers & those officers read the police minutes for the month, and information is put on record, information that they may not know or never viewed in the context that will be presented of unconditional legality, including the disproving of the Breech of Peace myth, I think the impact could be measured in that way, directly impacting any front line employee’s that read it and make the decisions to exercise powers of arrest in the field
I don’t know how a bigger impact could be made “NOW” for free, with the potential to reach 1000’s of front line officers, other than a court case or cases that are years off & 10 of thousands of dollars away, this will get buzz in the Department going and will probably piss some people off, some of these are very small meeting’s where the commissions and the police way out number the public, in the back of the police station, they will gang up, and try to bully their opinions.
I am of the opinion that if this is going to be done, we should write a formal document asserting the legality, what is to be expected based on the law (essentially the DPS -> State Police memo) and request it is read during the meeting.
I am in full agreement, a Formal letter could be written referencing State statues, any State Police Memo's, and current BOFE hearing transcript in pertinent part, and put on the record!
It should not be left to the people who don't know the law to state their opinion. That is already what we are fighting against.
I fully agree, I do not plan on asking, but asserting legal documents onto the record, and “combating opinion” that is in control of 1000’s of officers with powers of arrest, across the state.
[CENTER]This can also have the feel of 'asking permission', which is not the case. No 'permission' is needed.[/CENTER]
Just the opposite, There is no permission being asked, just a particular action being taken to correct the record and officially brief ,"Management" on the law, and get it on record so officers of those departments can get the facts (if the minutes are viewed), & not rely solely on supervisors biased thwarted opinions. This record that would be created would leave no wiggling room for the persecution of OC’ers going forward. It would create “evidence” of Departmental awareness that is undeniable, and the recognition of illegal action, based on “no Law” the next time someone is arrested for open carry.
Furthermore it is a “demand” saying I don’t care about your opinion, or what you have to say, to some people with some pretty big ego’s, and that’s normally all that matters is their opinions, you are walking into there house where there in charge of 100’s of officers and multimillion dollar budgets, and have direct control, & probably a strong opinion about the subject (usually all former officers of those departments), and “LAYING DOWN THE LAW LITERALLY”, You are entering the proverbial dragons layer!
If I had the Dough I would retain Attny Doug Hall as the former XO of the firearms unit, to go in and brief, the legality, as one of there own he may be better received. His former colleague Det Mattson is in constant contact with Local dept.’s She is the subject matter “Bais” expert according to Hall’s memo, what I witnessed first hand and she is anti gun to the Max!
I’m willing to attend any town meeting with anyone!