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    15 shot, 6 dead

    http://www.freep.com/article/2011081...CFRONTPAGE%7Cp

    it's official, we need more like cmdr_iceman71 patroling the streets of detroit on bicycle

    and while i'm on it, has anyone seen the movie superheroes? it's a strong pro-gun movie (even though they don't know it)
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    It's not a patrolling problem or a plain clothes open carrying problem, at least not exclusively. Detroit is a place the gets most of its non tax income from down town activities and the drug trade, because that's all the suburbs see it as useful for. Guns protect individuals and distinct groups, they do not protect entire cities without turning into some form of overbearing police state, and even then it might not work.

    It'd take a combination of better policing, extensive good samaritan OCing around the neighborhood, all kinds of other volunteer efforts, and thorough legalization of drugs to fix detroit. Even then you'd still have many thousands of kids with extremely bad situations at home who would be well beyond meaningful help.
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    yep, good samaritans like the iceman and rick ector
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    This is a result of prohibition.

    Snitches get stitches.

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    yes, prohibition didn't work the first time, so why repeat it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smellslikemichigan View Post
    yes, prohibition didn't work the first time, so why repeat it?
    Oh, but you aren't THINKING OF THE CHILDREN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    This is a result of prohibition.

    Snitches get stitches.
    Piss poor drug addicts would still need to rob and kill to fund their habit, whether they buy their crack from the corner dealer or Rite-Aid. Let's not be so naive to think legalizing drugs would make crime non existent.

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    When millions in drugs get busted because someone is running thier mouth, that mouth is going to disappear.

    I agree, nothing will eliminate crime, but when it comes to drugs, the .gov is the most powerful enabler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    When millions in drugs get busted because someone is running thier mouth, that mouth is going to disappear.

    I agree, nothing will eliminate crime, but when it comes to drugs, the .gov is the most powerful enabler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scot623 View Post
    Piss poor drug addicts would still need to rob and kill to fund their habit, whether they buy their crack from the corner dealer or Rite-Aid. Let's not be so naive to think legalizing drugs would make crime non existent.
    Piss poor drug addicts get shot and killed on a routine basis in Detroit, and you're right, that'll never change, thus you and I will never stop encouraging carrying. But as I said, Detroit's problems are much more complex and extensive than such a simple summary could do justice to.

    To put it another way, when you've got an epidemic of parents that put food on the table and pay bills by scouting out places to have their pre teen kids pull B&E's because no one in the household has any other marketable skills, guns don't mean much as a fix, other than to stop an individual act and either kill, or cause a judicial wrist slap.
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