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    Oh noooo Kids handling guns.... they should be at our club.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/18...est=latestnews

    If only they should see my club, every Saturday.

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    From the article:

    "Community organizer Attila Nagy, who took the photos, told FoxNews.com that he was concerned it might encourage kids to use guns in the future.

    "My main concern is for kids who handle these things. They're fascinated by them, and it makes them familiar with guns," he said."

    Are you KIDDING me?? Saying a kid handling a gun will encourage kids to use guns is the same as saying letting kids watch murder on TV will make them murderers. It might encourage kids to be interested in firearms which is a good thing as is being familiar with them. Letting a child handle a firearm removes that curiosity factor that kids seem to have. If they know what it is an what it does they will be less likely to go around playing with guns. They will also know not to touch and to find an adult if they encounter one. We need to be teaching our kids about guns, not hiding them. Antis drive me insane!!!!
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    Ignorance is dangerous. Knowledge is positive power for progress.

    We should not teach our children about automobiles: the hazards, dangers and how to be safe with one. They might otherwise grow up to use one in a violent crime.......sheesh!
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    I'm not so sure it was a good thing... look at the slideshow, I think a couple of those pictures show some violations of basic firearm safety.
    Giving up our liberties for safety is the one sure way to let the violent among us win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrTodd View Post
    I'm not so sure it was a good thing... look at the slideshow, I think a couple of those pictures show some violations of basic firearm safety.
    C'mon, you gotta learn somewhere.

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    While the following story is a complete fabrication it doesn't detract from the, very valid, principle.

    FEMALE INTERVIEWER: So, General Reinwald, what things are you going to teach these young boys when they visit your base?

    GENERAL REINWALD: We're going to teach them climbing, canoeing, archery and shooting.

    FEMALE INTERVIEWER: Shooting! That's a bit irresponsible, isn't it?

    GENERAL REINWALD: I don't see why, they'll be properly supervised on the rifle range.

    FEMALE INTERVIEWER: Don't you admit that this is a terribly dangerous activity to be teaching children?

    GENERAL REINWALD: I don't see how. We will be teaching them proper rifle discipline before they even touch a firearm.

    FEMALE INTERVIEWER: But you're equipping them to become violent killers.

    GENERAL REINWALD: Well, you're equipped to be a prostitute, but you're not one, are you?
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    Win. He is worthy of the title of General.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    Win. He is worthy of the title of General.
    Don't forget, it's a made up story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Don't forget, it's a made up story.

    Bronson
    Yes, but it makes a very, very valid point.
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Makes you wonder how the Boy Scouts are still allowed to teach shooting to kids.

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    Ya and the teach boy scouts how to tie knots & use a knife, sounds like they are all being shown how to be kidnappers to me,ohoh or future ted bunddy's.. turn off sarcasam now !

    I was in the wolf den, cub scouts, boy scouts, military 6yrs played in the sand etc..., in my cilivian life never hurt anyone, etc....
    stupidity breeds & the next generation is born, it is said it only takes 1 1/2 generations to go from freemen to servitude

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Don't forget, it's a made up story.

    Bronson
    Sure, the sentence that contained the link explained that.

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    mastiff, i was also in the boy scouts. i am an eagle scout. i had the rifle shooting merit badge.

    the boy scouts seem like they have been watered down by modern culture, but they still have rifle and shotgun shooting merit badges. i do not foresee BSA getting rid of the shooting sports (marksmanship was one of the original 57 merit badges in 1911).

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    The Swat team of the Kent county Sheriff did the identical thing a couple weeks ago for national night out at Celebration cinema south. I was working one of the booths. Fire departments were there, search and rescue, the mounted police, a bunch of other organizations. A bounce house and live band. Free food and give aways. They had people doing kid ID kits. It was a community awareness thing. The KC swat team had what appeared to be actual assault rifles, shotguns, and even a tear gas launcher laying on a table. You could walk up and pick them up. It was quite popular with the kids. At the time I thought it was odd. There were a lot of questions being asked about the guns and I didn't see any type of organized teaching going on. A couple times I saw a officer grab the barrel of the gun when someone would sweep the crowd with it and he'd make sure it was pointed in a safe direction. That was what made me think they were real and function-able. As much as I support having guns out in the open I think they need to be a little more organized about teaching proper gun handling whether the guns were inoperable or not.

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    ,One of the lamest excuses I heard when dealing with the Waterford Schools was that I would scare the children. Not so, they are fascinated by it, especially the boys, who just think its cool, and do thier best to get a better look.

    People who are afraid tend to move away, not move closer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElectricianLU58 View Post
    mastiff, i was also in the boy scouts. i am an eagle scout. i had the rifle shooting merit badge.

    the boy scouts seem like they have been watered down by modern culture, but they still have rifle and shotgun shooting merit badges. i do not foresee BSA getting rid of the shooting sports (marksmanship was one of the original 57 merit badges in 1911).
    Greating from Va. fellow Eagle!

    My troop goes out of it's way to make sure EVERY scout gets rifle, shotgun AND cooking. (basic life skill, no excuse not to cook when they leave for college) We consider them to be required, and we take much flak from national for it. We don't force anyone of course, or pressure/coerce but we schedule those campouts well in advance to make sure every scout has the opportunity.

    I've never nor probably will ever understand the need of these people to keep themselves and their kids completely in the dark about it.

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    If the sentiment in this article isn't a wake-up call I don't know what is.
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