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    Open carry threatened in casper!

    The Casper city council is in the process of passing an ordinance to ban open carry of firearms in the council meetings. As I understand it, the council has voted in favor of the ban. It needs to pass three readings before it can become an ordinance. All gunowners in the Casper area need to go to the council meetings and help stop this anti-gun move. I used to live in Casper, and it is the Jackson Hole of east central Wyoming. Way too many liberals and California wannabes.

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    Question....

    Are they voting in the City Council meetings to ban firearms (as in the city)? OR Are they voting to ban open carry of firearms in the council meetings but have no restrictions elsewhere?
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    I'm pretty sure such action would be null and void the moment they do it. County commissioners (not the ones in Natrona County) have discussed it and have been told they cannot make such a rule for their meetings.

    There is already a statute that prohibits concealed carry at meetings of government officials. My solution would be to continue allowing open carry by the public at the meetings, but change the law to allow concealed carry by the elected officials themselves during their meetings (after the pattern of judges in the courtroom).
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    Quote Originally Posted by t3a1s5 View Post
    There is already a statute that prohibits concealed carry at meetings of government officials. My solution would be to continue allowing open carry by the public at the meetings, but change the law to allow concealed carry by the elected officials themselves during their meetings (after the pattern of judges in the courtroom).
    Why should the servants have privileges that the masters do not?

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    The (public) servants [yeah, I think you got the servant-master thing backwards] deserve to have a playing field that is evened out. I have been at many pubic meetings and invariably it is the attending public who is very irate. Some (not all) members of the public carry openly to government meetings solely for the intimidation factor. That factor should NOT be present. This is especially true of those types who believe that the constituted government authorities are not legally constituted and have issued "warrants" for the public officials arrest.

    As of now, nobody knows which judges carry under their robes and which do not. That lack of knowledge goes toward the judges ability to keep order in the courtroom. Any elected official needs a similar uncertainty to help keep order in a public meeting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t3a1s5 View Post
    The (public) servants [yeah, I think you got the servant-master thing backwards] deserve to have a playing field that is evened out. I have been at many pubic meetings and invariably it is the attending public who is very irate. Some (not all) members of the public carry openly to government meetings solely for the intimidation factor. That factor should NOT be present. This is especially true of those types who believe that the constituted government authorities are not legally constituted and have issued "warrants" for the public officials arrest.

    As of now, nobody knows which judges carry under their robes and which do not. That lack of knowledge goes toward the judges ability to keep order in the courtroom. Any elected official needs a similar uncertainty to help keep order in a public meeting.
    I ask this in all honesty:

    Are you an agent provocateur?

    Because that is the stupidest, most statist thing I have ever heard.
    Last edited by ManInBlack; 08-28-2011 at 01:42 AM. Reason: That is the stupidest, most statist thing I have ever heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t3a1s5 View Post
    As of now, nobody knows which judges carry under their robes and which do not. That lack of knowledge goes toward the judges ability to keep order in the courtroom. Any elected official needs a similar uncertainty to help keep order in a public meeting.
    Now THAT is hilarious. The last time I used this VERY SAME logic to defend my right to self defense I was laughed at and called a psychopathic gun nut.

    "Criminals don't know who has guns and that keeps society in order." It's so blatantly obvious I'm embarrassed trying to explain it to people.

    Elected officials do not need uncertainty. To the contrary, sir, elected officials need to live with the absolute certainty that should they encroach upon my civil liberties they will be met with the unrelenting snarl of liberty's teeth. What a polite and orderly society that would beget.

    I have the right to keep and bear arms. Period. Open. Concealed. My house. Court room. Civic meetings. Anywhere I am legally permitted to go. Period.

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    If this hasn't been resolved, it will be. The Wyoming Attorney General will remind the Casper City council about state preemption.

    The Cody city Council made noises about prohibiting concealed carry at the city's recreation center. The AG stopped them dead in their tracks and the residents' memories exceed the length of time to the next council elections.

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