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    NRA Calls for Action to Protect Open Carry in Rock Hill, Missouri

    http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=7037
    Missouri: Open Carry Under Attack In Rock Hill!
    Wednesday, August 24, 2011
    Call Your Alderman and Urge Them to Vote NO to The Ban!

    An ordinance was introduced at last week’s Rock Hill Board of Aldermen meeting which would ban the open carry of firearms in the city of Rock Hill. Currently, city municipal code allows those who possess a valid concealed carry permit to also carry their firearm openly. The proposal introduced this week, if adopted, would amend the existing law and put an end to the practice of openly carrying a firearm for self-defense in Rock Hill. A vote on the matter is expected to take place at the next meeting on Tuesday, September 6, so it is very important that you contact your Alderman TODAY and urge him or her to oppose this proposed measure.
    Concealed carry laws will not be affected by this amendment since, according to Missouri’s preemption laws, cities only have the authority to regulate open carry and not concealed carry. However, it is still important to call your Alderman and ensure that your voice is heard by urging the Board members to respect your right to carry a firearm openly! Contact information for the Board of Alderman can be found below.
    Rock Hill Board of Aldermen:
    Alderwoman Chris Graber
    (314) 962-7486
    cgraber@rockhillmo.net

    Alderman Ed Johnson
    (314) 962-3165
    ejohnson@rockhillmo.net
    Alderman Edward Mahan
    (314) 918-1218
    emahan@rockhillmo.net
    Alderman Philip Scherry
    (314) 485-9686
    pscherry@rockhillmo.net
    Alderwoman Mary Wofford
    (314) 962-5723
    mwofford@rockhillmo.net
    Alderman Robert Weider
    (314) 918-1147
    rweider@rockhillmo.net
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    And so many say that the NRA doesn't support Open Carry
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    Quote Originally Posted by okboomer View Post
    And so many say that the NRA doesn't support Open Carry
    They do support it....where it is already in place. Try to get them to back it in a place where it is not allowed. You'll find they sing a different song.
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    This is the second or third instance lately where the NRA has come out FOR Open Carry. I am now rethinking my decision to end my membership in the fall...

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    In Florida, NRA made its position on open carry crystal clear just over three months ago by saying:
    “NRA [is not] opposed to open carry, it is just not a priority right now…”


    See: NRA’s Own Prodigal Son Story – Open and Concealed Carry

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    Quote Originally Posted by xd shooter View Post
    This is the second or third instance lately where the NRA has come out FOR Open Carry. I am now rethinking my decision to end my membership in the fall...
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    • Charles Nichols says:
      August 25, 2011 at 2:02 am
      And yet the NRA CCW lawsuit in California (Peruta v San Diego) tells the court of appeals that California’s ban on Loaded Open Carry is not unconstitutional if the court makes CCWs “shall issue.” The NRA lawyer goes on to warn that court that failing to do so would result in the ban being overturned as well as the “drastic” consequence of invalidating Gun Free School Zones as well.
      Regardless of what it tells its membership, what the NRA lawyers say in court is what counts. The NRA opposes Open Carry. The NRA supports Gun Free School Zones.
      http://michellawyers.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Peruta-Opening-Brief.pdf
      FYI, the NRA lawyer also filed a brief in another California gun case saying that gun free school zones are constitutional.
      Also, the NRA opposes a Federal Civil Rights lawsuit to overturn California’s ban on Loaded Open Carry. The only reason they are seeking an injunction against Illinois’ ban is to pressure the legislature into enacting a CCW law. Once they have that, it will be the last you will ever hear about Open Carry from the NRA.
      Memo to NRA – STOP HELPING US!

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    *The information contained above is not meant to be legal advice, but is solely intended as a starting point for further research. These are my opinions, if you have further questions it is advisable to seek out an attorney that is well versed in firearm law.

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    The NRA has traditionally NOT supported OC. They have consistently refused to correct their misrepresentations of AL law in this regard. It is nice to see them coming around. However, until they make it absolutely clear that they support the right to carry openly--and correct all of their positions and information accordingly--I cannot support them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venator View Post
    Comment made about the article.

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    • Charles Nichols says:
      August 25, 2011 at 2:02 am
      And yet the NRA CCW lawsuit in California (Peruta v San Diego) tells the court of appeals that California’s ban on Loaded Open Carry is not unconstitutional if the court makes CCWs “shall issue.” The NRA lawyer goes on to warn that court that failing to do so would result in the ban being overturned as well as the “drastic” consequence of invalidating Gun Free School Zones as well.
      Regardless of what it tells its membership, what the NRA lawyers say in court is what counts. The NRA opposes Open Carry. The NRA supports Gun Free School Zones.
      http://michellawyers.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Peruta-Opening-Brief.pdf
      FYI, the NRA lawyer also filed a brief in another California gun case saying that gun free school zones are constitutional.
      Also, the NRA opposes a Federal Civil Rights lawsuit to overturn California’s ban on Loaded Open Carry. The only reason they are seeking an injunction against Illinois’ ban is to pressure the legislature into enacting a CCW law. Once they have that, it will be the last you will ever hear about Open Carry from the NRA.
      Memo to NRA – STOP HELPING US!

    I would not confuse a legal position in a court with a policy stance of the group.

    The statement of "one or the other" is accurate. In the same light, if it were the other way around where it was a CCW ban and a "may issue OC permit" situation, the reverse statement would apply, as "The CC ban is unconstitutional, unless OC becomes 'shall issue.'"


    In other words, many people formulate their view of the NRA, then find snippets that they feel support that view, and refuse to process those snippets that they feel do NOT support that view.


    See: Confirmation Bias
    Last edited by wrightme; 08-25-2011 at 10:00 AM.
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    For once we are in complete agreement!

    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
    The NRA has traditionally NOT supported OC. They have consistently refused to correct their misrepresentations of AL law in this regard. It is nice to see them coming around. However, until they make it absolutely clear that they support the right to carry openly--and correct all of their positions and information accordingly--I cannot support them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by okboomer View Post
    And so many say that the NRA doesn't support Open Carry
    So nice of them to have supported open carry for Texas this last session.... oh wait, they didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
    The NRA has traditionally NOT supported OC. They have consistently refused to correct their misrepresentations of AL law in this regard. It is nice to see them coming around. However, until they make it absolutely clear that they support the right to carry openly--and correct all of their positions and information accordingly--I cannot support them.

    Eye, as I construe their position, they are not supporting OC where it does not exist, neither are they opposing it. They are supporting it where it already exists and some one is attacking it. They are not supporting it where it exists and is not under attack, sometimes. Rather inconsistent, aren't they?

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    They supported it in California?

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