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    Looking down the muzzle of a .380 this past weekend!!

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    It's not funny, it's sad. Suppose you'd been lying there, dead; her response, "oops, my bad", sort of doesn't adequately convey a sense of remorse. I'd want that person to say, "Damn! That's the dumbest thing I've ever done! I'm sorry I assaulted you, please forgive me! I've learned my lesson, and from now on, I'll always point the muzzle in the safest possible direction."

    "My bad"; really. I mean, like, really!

    My first thought (remember that to the man with a hammer, every problem looks like a nail) was that what that person did was brandishing a firearm, assault with a deadly weapon, simple assault both as a crime and as a tort. I settle cases like that for damages in the neighborhood of ten thousand dollars. I'd love to have a defendant come in one day and say to a jury, "Gee, my bad."
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    Defensive Handgun I
    Defensive Handgun I is a structured live fire class designed to teach you the beginning shooting techniques needed to properly deploy your defensive handgun, while at the same time reinforcing safe gun handling skills.

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    Thumbs up All in all, not bad

    Who of us is perfect? In my opinion, your partner responded well. None of us can react exactly the way somebody else thinks we should every time. If a situation like this happened numerous times, maybe then we should take it to next level. Each of us should try to improve the way we carry AND the way we carry ourselves. It's a never-ending job.

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    Hi, I'm hypercritical. But I mean no harm, I just like to try to look deeply at life

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    Both of you did very well, except for the part where you turned around and was, inadvertently to be sure, on the wrong end of your partner's weapon. You both realized the mistake and both of you are talking it through and taking action to prevent a recurrence.

    Damifinow what else you could/should have done under the circumstances you were under. You'll get no flames or criticism from me. For what it is worth, I'd have been up and looking around after a noise such as you describe with pistol in hand.

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    Last edited by Badger Johnson; 08-28-2011 at 08:10 AM.
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    Hi, I'm hypercritical. But I mean no harm, I just like to try to look deeply at life

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    Partner?
    Are yall cops or something?

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    Last edited by Badger Johnson; 08-28-2011 at 08:12 AM.
    A gun in a holster is better than one drawn and dispensing bullets. Concealed forces the latter. - ixtow

    Hi, I'm hypercritical. But I mean no harm, I just like to try to look deeply at life

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    Good that y'all were able to learn something without any injuries occurring.

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    Big boy rules. Nobody was injured.

    Learn from the mistake and move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeroHog View Post
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    Same here. It appears Badger has removed all his comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf_shadow View Post
    Same here. It appears Badger has removed all his comments.

    It's not funny, it's sad. Suppose you'd been lying there, dead; her response, "oops, my bad", sort of doesn't adequately convey a sense of remorse.
    Actually....in response to User's post I was going to say that after reading some of his posts, she'd feel better.

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    Wow....
    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady
    I am no victim, just a poor college student who looks to the day where the rich have the living piss taxed out of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger Johnson View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elkad View Post
    Big boy rules. Nobody was injured.

    Learn from the mistake and move on.
    I do sympathize somewhat. Last night wife thought she heard an intruder, but it was not even nightfall yet. I went downstairs and checked each room, and then the final room, a closed door storage room. It was pitch dark in the basement and deadly quiet as I suddenly pushed open the door a nudge - and heard a "clunk" in the corner.

    My finger wasn't on the trigger and I stopped myself before it got all the way there because the back of my brain registered the sound in that split second. It was just the pressure tank coming on because someone turned on a faucet upstairs.

    Still, I told my wife we almost needed a new pressure tank - an exaggeration, but it still gave me an adrenaline jolt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elkad View Post
    Big boy rules. Nobody was injured.

    Learn from the mistake and move on.
    You all do know that the phrases "Big boy rules" and Nobody was injured" are the same, don't you?

    The other rules (the infamous Four Rules) are there to make sure nobody needs to use the "big boy rules" line.

    And now, twice, I have used the phrase "big boy". The only two times in my life I have ever done so. I hope you are happy at making me do that.

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    what happened to the OP text??

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    This original post drew a fair amount of critical 'fire' when I put it up. I since considered that the incident where one person swept the other in a 'man in the house' scenario was my fault not my partners. I kind of regretted posting it, though it had some potential to be 'lessons learned' posting.

    (Turned out there was no one in the camping cabin, it was the earthquake aftershock which slammed an interior door at 0100 and thus no rounds were expended downrange and only one person had to change their underwear. )
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    10-4. Thanks.

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