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    I am already tired of thumb loading my magazines, and its only been a week. Any ideas on mag loaders or anything to help me out? My thumbs hate me right now. I love shooting my glock, but I hate loading the thing, and the mag loader that it came with is junk! Thanks in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glock214 View Post
    I am already tired of thumb loading my magazines, and its only been a week. Any ideas on mag loaders or anything to help me out? My thumbs hate me right now. I love shooting my glock, but I hate loading the thing, and the mag loader that it came with is junk! Thanks in advance

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    They have loaders that are nice. I don't have one but saw one this weekend while shooting. Google it. http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1...w=1280&bih=933
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    Check Cheaper Than Dirt. They have a large selection with user reviews.

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    I agree with thebigsd. Try cheaperthandirt.com They have a big selection of ammo loaders. You could try opticsplanet.com as well.
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    Thanks for the info everyone!! I will be checking out the sites you all recommended. Thanks Again!!

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    no problem. Also try ammunitiontogo.com for cheap ammo. They sale rounds by the 1,000's

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    @OP Yeah, I feel for you. The Glock loading tool does suck. My primary is a Springfield XDm. Springfield did a much better job with the OEM loading tool (that Venator earlier referenced). I also own a Glock 27 and the tool -- well yeah, sucks.
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    Man you guys are awesome, Tips for loaders, and ammo!! Thanks!!

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    I sometimes want to throw the tool out the window...but, its better than killing my thumbs even worse than using the tool lol.

    Has anyone heard of "USA AMMO" I googled ammo and that came up, any thoughts?

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    You know that you dont have to unload your magazines to transport right?

    What you do have to worry about, is something called bullet setback. When you repeatedly chamber a round in a semi auto, the bullet will be driven back into the case, reducing its volume. This increases chamber pressures dramatically, which could result in a kaboom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    You know that you dont have to unload your magazines to transport right?

    What you do have to worry about, is something called bullet setback. When you repeatedly chamber a round in a semi auto, the bullet will be driven back into the case, reducing its volume. This increases chamber pressures dramatically, which could result in a kaboom.

    I did know I didn't have to unload my mags, I always have them loaded on my hip (even while driving, is that ok?) So do you recommend me Not having a round in the chamber while OC'ing then? I don't want a "kaboom" unless I am pulling that trigger at the range or at a BG. I had no idea about the "bullet setback". Thanks for the heads up though! Also, how often should I clean my glock, new to gun ownership, I've shot a lot of glocks, just never owned one and had to care for it. And I've been told a glock will last through anything. But I wish to baby mine and make sure it's always in prime shape, I would hate to have a misfire due to poor gun care when it really counts.

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    Feel free to keep your loaded magazines out of the magazine well of your gun while in transport. If you get pulled over, don't consent to a search under any circumstances. Having loaded magazines with you in the cockpit w/o a CPL is fine. If stopped it might be wise to keep them out of sight. What you're doing isn't illegal, you'll just save yourself any possibility of legal run in if you don't consent.

    When OCing (outside your vehicle), please consider keeping a round in the chamber. A gun without a round in the chamber may as well be thrown at the bad guy.

    Be careful of places that are easy to get tripped up and illegally carry. A common place is anywhere that is licensed to sell alcohol. This may include:

    • Your local grocery chain
    • Gas stations
    • Party Stores



    Also consider getting your CPL. It'll save you lots of hassle. Once you have you CPL you can:

    • Carry loaded in the cabin of your vehicle
    • Go to places that are licensed to sell liquor without getting pre-written permission
    • Not get a permit to purchase from the police for future pistol purchases



    The CPL is the best $250ish I've spent in a while.

    $105 = License fee
    $25 = Box of ammo for class
    $75-$125 = cost of class


    I fully clean my firearm after every time I shoot it. Some may say this is over-kill, but this is a piece of equipment that is staying close to my body and clothes. I'd prefer it not to be laced with thick amounts of lead (to the extent I can control that). At the very minimal I'd recommend you clean the barrel (get a "bore snake" -- those are good for just opening the breech and dropping through without dis-assembly) after each shooting session. Mileage may very in this area, others will be like me and still others will tell you they don't clean their gun unless they've put 1,000 rounds through since their last cleaning.
    Last edited by TheQ; 08-31-2011 at 04:14 PM.
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    Always carry one in the chamber.

    Im just trying to save you a lot of hassle, sounded like you were emptying and refilling your mags everytime you OC. Thats an unnecessary PITA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    Always carry one in the chamber.

    Im just trying to save you a lot of hassle, sounded like you were emptying and refilling your mags everytime you OC. Thats an unnecessary PITA.

    Oh no, thanks for any tips you give stainless. I appreciate them all. I look for you and other seasoned OC'ers for guidance and tips to stay out of a legal problem now or in the future. I would be crazy to unload and reload each mag everytime I OC. I wouldn't have thumbs left with as often as I have to get my glock out of my trunk and load up lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQ View Post
    Feel free to keep your loaded magazines out of the magazine well of your gun while in transport. If you get pulled over, don't consent to a search under any circumstances. Having loaded magazines with you in the cockpit w/o a CPL is fine. If stopped it might be wise to keep them out of sight. What you're doing isn't illegal, you'll just save yourself any possibility of legal run in if you don't consent.

    When OCing (outside your vehicle), please consider keeping a round in the chamber. A gun without a round in the chamber may as well be thrown at the bad guy.

    Be careful of places that are easy to get tripped up and illegally carry. A common place is anywhere that is licensed to sell alcohol. This may include:

    • Your local grocery chain
    • Gas stations
    • Party Stores



    Also consider getting your CPL. It'll save you lots of hassle. Once you have you CPL you can:

    • Carry loaded in the cabin of your vehicle
    • Go to places that are licensed to sell liquor without getting pre-written permission
    • Not get a permit to purchase from the police for future pistol purchases



    The CPL is the best $250ish I've spent in a while.

    $105 = License fee
    $25 = Box of ammo for class
    $75-$125 = cost of class


    I fully clean my firearm after every time I shoot it. Some may say this is over-kill, but this is a piece of equipment that is staying close to my body and clothes. I'd prefer it not to be laced with thick amounts of lead (to the extent I can control that). At the very minimal I'd recommend you clean the barrel (get a "bore snake" -- those are good for just opening the breech and dropping through without dis-assembly) after each shooting session. Mileage may very in this area, others will be like me and still others will tell you they don't clean their gun unless they've put 1,000 rounds through since their last cleaning.

    Thank you, I will keep my magazines out of sight from now on, or maybe just in the trunk in a different box than the glock to save problems at least until I get my cpl. And I agree, I am going to be paying 150 for the class and then about 30 for ammo at Silver Bullet. But hey, it will make OC'ing a lot easier. I was actually looking at purchasing a "bore snake" that I came across on "topglock.com" I was unsure though, but now I know they work well. I agree, I want to keep my glock as clean as possible since that is my means of protection for myself and my family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQ View Post
    Feel free to keep your loaded magazines out of the magazine well of your gun while in transport. If you get pulled over, don't consent to a search under any circumstances. Having loaded magazines with you in the cockpit w/o a CPL is fine. If stopped it might be wise to keep them out of sight. What you're doing isn't illegal, you'll just save yourself any possibility of legal run in if you don't consent.

    When OCing (outside your vehicle), please consider keeping a round in the chamber. A gun without a round in the chamber may as well be thrown at the bad guy.

    Be careful of places that are easy to get tripped up and illegally carry. A common place is anywhere that is licensed to sell alcohol. This may include:

    • Your local grocery chain
    • Gas stations
    • Party Stores



    Also consider getting your CPL. It'll save you lots of hassle. Once you have you CPL you can:

    • Carry loaded in the cabin of your vehicle
    • Go to places that are licensed to sell liquor without getting pre-written permission
    • Not get a permit to purchase from the police for future pistol purchases



    The CPL is the best $250ish I've spent in a while.

    $105 = License fee
    $25 = Box of ammo for class
    $75-$125 = cost of class


    I fully clean my firearm after every time I shoot it. Some may say this is over-kill, but this is a piece of equipment that is staying close to my body and clothes. I'd prefer it not to be laced with thick amounts of lead (to the extent I can control that). At the very minimal I'd recommend you clean the barrel (get a "bore snake" -- those are good for just opening the breech and dropping through without dis-assembly) after each shooting session. Mileage may very in this area, others will be like me and still others will tell you they don't clean their gun unless they've put 1,000 rounds through since their last cleaning.
    Good post... but let me add...

    Where liquor licenses are concerned it is the "premises" .... that means the entire property... parking lot, lawn.... and the building.
    Gun control isn't about the gun at all.... for those who want gun control it is all about their own fragile egos, their own lack of self esteem, their own inner fears, and most importantly... their own desire to dominate others. And an openly carried gun is a slap in the face to all of those things.

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    There is a method of loading magazines that works better than the usual attempts to push the round down with the thumb while sliding the round into the mag. I'll try to explain clearly.....

    -Holding the mag in the right hand with opening up and with bullet end pointing at the fingers....

    -Take a round with the left hand and hold it between thumb and finger then lay it on top of the magazine (mostly towards the front so the rear will miss the mag lips)...

    -Now... using the thumb of the right hand push down on the round while still holding it with the finger & thumb of the left hand....

    -When round is down far enough push it into place with the left thumb and finger.

    -Repeat until mag is full.

    Naturally for left handed folks just replace "right" with "left" and "left" with "right".


    Clear as mud?
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    Gun control isn't about the gun at all.... for those who want gun control it is all about their own fragile egos, their own lack of self esteem, their own inner fears, and most importantly... their own desire to dominate others. And an openly carried gun is a slap in the face to all of those things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venator View Post
    They have loaders that are nice. I don't have one but saw one this weekend while shooting. Google it. http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1...w=1280&bih=933
    I have the UpLula that Venator linked to above. It works great. I can use it on every auto pistol I own, single or double stack magazines. Everything from .32 to .45 without a hitch.

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    I say clean your gun at least every two weeks even if not firing it on a regular basis. Because even just sitting there it collects all kinds of dust and debree. If You shoot a lot, clean it after every time you shoot. Don't let It sit so long after shooting. That's bad. This should be sufficient enough. Just don't over oil it. It also depends on the area you live in too. What the weather is like and such. Stick to this and you will be golden. Especially with a glock.

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    I have an UpLula as well and love it. It works great. It's a bit pricey but its worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SigGuy23 View Post
    I say clean your gun at least every two weeks even if not firing it on a regular basis. Because even just sitting there it collects all kinds of dust and debree. If You shoot a lot, clean it after every time you shoot. Don't let It sit so long after shooting. That's bad. This should be sufficient enough. Just don't over oil it. It also depends on the area you live in too. What the weather is like and such. Stick to this and you will be golden. Especially with a glock.

    Thanks SigGuy, I do try to shoot a few times a week, usually about 200 rounds a week to get comfortable with my gun and what grip I should use etc. Also, its a tool that is there to protect my family,So I want to master it so everything is second nature for me. I still can't stop blinking though when firing... any suggestions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    I have the UpLula that Venator linked to above. It works great. I can use it on every auto pistol I own, single or double stack magazines. Everything from .32 to .45 without a hitch.

    Bronson

    I just looked at those, and they actually had one at a local gun shop i visited. And I am going to purchase it with my next check. They aren't cheap, but they look great, and your comment on them just sold me, thanks Bronson and Venator!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glock214 View Post
    Thanks SigGuy, I do try to shoot a few times a week, usually about 200 rounds a week to get comfortable with my gun and what grip I should use etc. Also, its a tool that is there to protect my family,So I want to master it so everything is second nature for me. I still can't stop blinking though when firing... any suggestions?

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    Just keep shooting, you'll clear the blinking thing out in time.

    Have you tried snapcaps yet? If possible, have someone else load your mags for you, have them hide a snapcap or two in the mag. When you hit the "dud", it will do a couple things for you. It will unconver a flinch, if any, it will help the blink, and it will help you train for a jam, and show you how to quickly clear your weapon.

    If you have several mags, you can load them yourself, inserting the snapcaps at random, and then just mix up your mags. If you reload, you could kill some primers, and load up a few duds. Toss all your rounds in a bag, mix them up, and you won't know which ones are live when you load them.

    Dont mix those up with your self defense rounds though. o_O
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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    Just keep shooting, you'll clear the blinking thing out in time.

    Have you tried snapcaps yet? If possible, have someone else load your mags for you, have them hide a snapcap or two in the mag. When you hit the "dud", it will do a couple things for you. It will unconver a flinch, if any, it will help the blink, and it will help you train for a jam, and show you how to quickly clear your weapon.

    If you have several mags, you can load them yourself, inserting the snapcaps at random, and then just mix up your mags. If you reload, you could kill some primers, and load up a few duds. Toss all your rounds in a bag, mix them up, and you won't know which ones are live when you load them.

    Dont mix those up with your self defense rounds though. o_O
    I have not tried snapcaps yet, honestly I have never heard of them until you mentioned them. I will have to try that and see if that helps me see if I am anticipating the recoil, have a flinch, etc. And I never even thought about the gun jamming. Thank you for pointing that out, now that I think about it. I remember watching a video mentioning when you have a jam/misfire, to slap the bottom of your mag and rack the slide. and to get used to it, practice doing that same thing over and over and over again. Isn't racking the slide over and over bad for your gun? Or have I been told incorrectly?

    And I make sure I have my self defense set aside from my range rounds now, I learned the hard way after realizing that I just let off three mags full of self defense ammo down range them rounds aren't cheap lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glock214 View Post
    I have not tried snapcaps yet, honestly I have never heard of them until you mentioned them. I will have to try that and see if that helps me see if I am anticipating the recoil, have a flinch, etc. And I never even thought about the gun jamming. Thank you for pointing that out, now that I think about it. I remember watching a video mentioning when you have a jam/misfire, to slap the bottom of your mag and rack the slide. and to get used to it, practice doing that same thing over and over and over again. Isn't racking the slide over and over bad for your gun? Or have I been told incorrectly?

    And I make sure I have my self defense set aside from my range rounds now, I learned the hard way after realizing that I just let off three mags full of self defense ammo down range them rounds aren't cheap lol

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    Racking the slide is same as shooting the gun. With proper lubrication, should be no issue (certain semi-auto firearms have spring issues after x number of rounds).

    Plenty of places to obtain target/range rounds, no need to use Self-Defense rounds for every range time.

    You might want to consider some training for Defensive Hand-gunning...

    http://www.michigantrainer.com/index...d=15&Itemid=29

    http://www.michigantrainer.com/index...d=16&Itemid=30

    http://www.migunowners.org/forum/sho...d.php?t=146874
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    Like PD said, it wont hurt your gun. Glocks arew famous for running tens of thousands of rounds, even without cleaning. A gun is designed to operate that way, it is its only function.

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