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    College Students are Safe Targets...

    In Lynchburg news - (I would add Open Carry to the Safety Tips!)


    An assault on a Lynchburg College student left the campus on lockdown for more than an hour Monday night as police searched for a suspect.

    According to the college’s security alert, a female student was walking in the 400 block of Lakewood Street when a man jumped out from behind a parked car and grabbed her from behind at about 10:30 p.m. The woman turned around and the man grabbed her by the throat.

    The student kneed her attacker in the groin and he let go and ran off in the direction of Thomas Road, said Bob Driskill, director of campus security for Lynchburg College.

    Driskill said he does not believe the man was a student but said he may be a resident of neighborhoods around the campus.

    “She gave a good, detailed description but we were unable to locate him,” Driskill said.

    The woman, while upset, was calm and able to provide a complete description of the suspect, Driskill said. Although she had some marks on her throat, the victim was not physically hurt in the attack.

    Driskill said eight different messages were sent to students alerting them of the attack, the lockdown and various safety procedures. The lockdown was lifted just after midnight.

    The campus alert system got word of the attack and the suspect’s description out quickly, Driskill said. The attack happened at 10:38 p.m. and the first alert went out seven minutes later.

    “Safety is a 24-hour, seven-days-a-week, 365 word around here,” said John Eccles, vice president and dean for student development.

    Eccles said the challenge on campus is to keep safety in the forefront for students and faculty so they feel comfortable on campus.


    Lynchburg College Security offered these safety tips:

    - Always keep doors and windows closed and locked and blinds closed

    - Never answer the door if you are unsure of who may be on the other side.

    - Carry a cell phone.

    - Never walk alone after dark. Students, faculty and staff of LC can call campus security if they need an escort on campus at (434) 544-8100.

    - Call campus security at (434) 544-5555 if you see anyone checking doorknobs, looking into rooms or simply looking like they do not belong on campus.

    The college’s security staff is holding a self-defense awareness class Sept. 14.

    Anyone with information about this crime is asked to call the campus security office’s emergency number at (434) 544-5555.
    When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force.

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    I get a half-dozen of these messages from the ODU safety office each week - and I would say AT LEAST two thirds of them could have been thwarted by active open carry.

    Sadly, John Broderick is not a unique individual. His inanity and idiocy pervades the higher offices at most major universities.
    The quiet war has begun, with silent weapons
    And the newest slavery is to keep the people poor, and stupid
    Novos ordo seclorum ~ Mustaine

    Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuc65 View Post

    The college’s security staff is holding a self-defense awareness class Sept. 14.
    Is this to make everyone aware that they are defenseless?
    “The claim and exercise of a constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime.”
    [Miller vs. U.S., 230 F. Supp. 486, 489 (1956)]
    “There can be no sanction or penalty imposed upon one because of his exercise of constitutional rights.”
    [Sherar vs. Cullen, 481 F2d. 946 (1973)]

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    Just saw an article from Philly, PA, that a licenced college student who was shot and attempted to be robbed shot his attacker. Not such a safe target. We need Castle Doctrine in Virginia NOW....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridgerunner316 View Post
    Just saw an article from Philly, PA, that a licenced college student who was shot and attempted to be robbed shot his attacker. Not such a safe target. We need Castle Doctrine in Virginia NOW....
    We already have it. We have 4 centuries of good case law supporting your right to defend yourself, even with deadly force if necessary without retreat assuming one is not an aggressive party or instigator to a conflict. Check out the Virginia Gun Owner's Guide as a good place to start learning. Even with legislated "Castle Doctrine" laws you best be educated on what they do and do not mean, just like here.

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    Highly educational!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ridgerunner316 View Post
    Just saw an article from Philly, PA, that a licenced college student who was shot and attempted to be robbed shot his attacker. Not such a safe target. We need Castle Doctrine in Virginia NOW....
    This incident is highly educational (no pun intended). As you will see, some are so dense they refuse to learn to real lesson here:

    Warrington man shoots back at would-be robber
    A Warrington native in his second year at Temple University is recovering after exchanging gunfire with a would-be 15-year-old robber early Monday morning.

    Robert Eells, 21, was smoking a cigarette with a roommate outside their rowhome on the 2300 block of North 12th Street in the city about 1:53 a.m. when three males approached, police said. One of the males, 15-year-old Rafiq Thompson of Philadelphia, pulled a gun and demanded money, according to police.

    But Eells was no easy mark. He refused to hand over money and the teenager started firing. Eells was hit in the stomach, but returned fire with his own handgun, striking the teen in the leg and torso, according to police. The teen’s accomplices ran away. Eells and Thompson were both taken to Temple University Hospital.

    The bullet passed through his (Eells) body but doctors made an 8-inch incision to repair his internal organs. Doctors told family members he was lucky, the bullet missed striking a section of intestines that would have left Eells in need of a colostomy bag for the rest of his life.

    Mack said her grandson has grown up around guns and has a legal permit for the handgun he carried. She said she believes he got the permit and the gun for protection while living in the city.
    While many papers chose not to reveal the identity of the assailant, this paper did. Good for them.

    Later, the Philadelphia Inquirer offered their opinion on all this:

    Inquirer Editorial: Student safety at Temple
    A gun battle between a Temple University student and would-be thieves early Monday puts school officials on notice: They need to step up efforts to safeguard collegians living in off-campus housing.

    While the student has been heralded in some quarters for his resourcefulness in using a legal weapon to defend himself, it would be unfortunate if the confrontation leads other students to take up arms.
    "Unfortunate" -- gee, really? Why?

    That's not to say it would be advisable for other students to arm themselves as a tactic in their own defense, however. For one thing, Temple bans students from carrying weapons on campus proper. What's more, law enforcement officials around the nation wisely frown on any effort to open campuses to weapons.
    So, LEOs are always "wise" -- really? Like at Tech and UVA?

    Both the university's fine-tuning of area police patrols and its efforts to bring more students on campus are moves that should reassure anxious students and parents alike in the wake of Monday's shooting.
    And that's what it is really about -- reassurance. how parents "feel" not how students actually are. Are they actually safer within gun ban bubbles? No.

    At least the cops won't (probably) charge Eells with a crime:
    The teenager will face charges of aggravated and simple assault, robbery, and possibly attempted murder, said police spokeswoman Tanya Little.

    She said Eells had a license to carry a firearm and probably would not be charged.

    "As far as the investigation stands now, I don't believe so. He was acting in self-defense," she said.

    "If you do have a permit, that would be the time to use your weapon, when someone tries to rob you and shoots you," she said.
    Gee, you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repeater View Post
    At least the cops won't (probably) charge Eells with a crime.
    Hopefully they learned their lesson on wasting taxpayers' money with the Gerald Ung verdict... even after ordering lunch, it took them all of about 3 hours to acquit. It was a monumental miscarriage of "justice" for him to ever have been charged, much less prosecuted all the way to the end.


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