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    How many guns are legal?

    How many guns can I carry with my permit in florida legally?
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    “The claim and exercise of a constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime.”
    [Miller vs. U.S., 230 F. Supp. 486, 489 (1956)]
    “There can be no sanction or penalty imposed upon one because of his exercise of constitutional rights.”
    [Sherar vs. Cullen, 481 F2d. 946 (1973)]

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    My understanding is that there is no limit in Florida. I looked around for a cite but couldn't find one. Maybe someone else could help with that.
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    I'm still looking for the law that says how many pairs of socks I can wear...or the one that says how many rings I can wear...I just can't seem to find the statute for this anywhere!
    “The claim and exercise of a constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime.”
    [Miller vs. U.S., 230 F. Supp. 486, 489 (1956)]
    “There can be no sanction or penalty imposed upon one because of his exercise of constitutional rights.”
    [Sherar vs. Cullen, 481 F2d. 946 (1973)]

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    I think what Schlitz is so gently hinting at is the fact that it is there is no mention of a limit in the statute. Therefore there is no prohibition on how many guns you can carry therefore there is no limit.

    Here is the statute.

    http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2010/790.06
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    lol you're the man SD
    “The claim and exercise of a constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime.”
    [Miller vs. U.S., 230 F. Supp. 486, 489 (1956)]
    “There can be no sanction or penalty imposed upon one because of his exercise of constitutional rights.”
    [Sherar vs. Cullen, 481 F2d. 946 (1973)]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schlitz View Post
    lol you're the man SD
    I thought that under the new sb234 law that it mentioned some where
    That it said (A) handgun. I could be mistaken!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick H View Post
    I thought that under the new sb234 law that it mentioned some where
    That it said (A) handgun. I could be mistaken!
    Before the bill was nuked, one of the amendments did say a permitee could "openly carry a handgun." You can conceal as many as you want.
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    I don't "need" to openly carry a handgun or own an "assault weapon" any more than Rosa Parks needed a seat on the bus.

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    Even had SB234 passed with the "openly carry a handgun" caveat, the intent of the legislature was clearly not to place a limit on the number of handguns one could openly carry, any more than this...


    A license issued under this section does not authorize any person to openly carry a handgun or carry a concealed weapon or firearm into...


    implies that a licensee could therefore legally carry more than one firearm in a prohibited place under the provisions of FSS §790.06(12) because the prohibition states "a handgun".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich7553 View Post
    Even had SB234 passed with the "openly carry a handgun" caveat, the intent of the legislature was clearly not to place a limit on the number of handguns one could openly carry, any more than this...


    A license issued under this section does not authorize any person to openly carry a handgun or carry a concealed weapon or firearm into...


    implies that a licensee could therefore legally carry more than one firearm in a prohibited place under the provisions of FSS §790.06(12) because the prohibition states "a handgun".
    Thanks Rich, The reason for my question is because I read this from a poster in USACARRY.com,

    http://www.usacarry.com/forums/conce...you-carry.html
    How Many guns is too many?
    I am not an attorney and this is not construed to give anyone legal advice or training. I am a state licensed firearms instructor and I am licensed to teach the law concerning firearms in Florida. This is how I know it.

    Read your Florida CWOF (not CWP or CCWP) license title. The title states "Weapon" or "Firearm" in singular, not plural. Thus, the law (as defined on your license) now only allows you to carry one or the other, not both or more than one of either.

    This not prevent you from carrying one gun legally in the car and one on your body if licensed as a Florida CWOFL holder, but an argument could be made against you for carrying a weapon (knife or other) AND a gun on you if a cop has arresting issues with you and exercised his leverage.

    It was recently changed from a "permit" to a "license" to make it revocable or suspended under state law at anytime just like your Drivers license. It is no longer a "permit"-ed right you purchase, but a "licensed" privilege you are granted by the state. This change helped it to conform to many other states thus allowing reciprocity to expand.

    Something that slipped by the legal eagles watching out for our rights while they were fighting to keep the license fund from being raided.

    I would welcome other opinions on this subject, especially from state "K" licensed instructors.

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    Last edited by Rick H; 09-04-2011 at 01:50 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick H View Post
    Thanks Rich, The reason for my question is because I read this from a poster in USACARRY.com,

    http://www.usacarry.com/forums/conce...you-carry.html
    How Many guns is too many?
    I am not an attorney and this is not construed to give anyone legal advice or training. I am a state licensed firearms instructor and I am licensed to teach the law concerning firearms in Florida. This is how I know it.

    Read your Florida CWOF (not CWP or CCWP) license title. The title states "Weapon" or "Firearm" in singular, not plural. Thus, the law (as defined on your license) now only allows you to carry one or the other, not both or more than one of either.

    This not prevent you from carrying one gun legally in the car and one on your body if licensed as a Florida CWOFL holder, but an argument could be made against you for carrying a weapon (knife or other) AND a gun on you if a cop has arresting issues with you and exercised his leverage.

    It was recently changed from a "permit" to a "license" to make it revocable or suspended under state law at anytime just like your Drivers license. It is no longer a "permit"-ed right you purchase, but a "licensed" privilege you are granted by the state. This change helped it to conform to many other states thus allowing reciprocity to expand.

    Something that slipped by the legal eagles watching out for our rights while they were fighting to keep the license fund from being raided.

    I would welcome other opinions on this subject, especially from state "K" licensed instructors.

    TG
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    Jim Stephens, LPI, LEFI
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    I have never heard of any case where a licensed individual was harassed, arrested, charged, or prosecuted for carrying more than a single weapon. And this guy's teaching the legal aspects of carry? Sheesh!
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