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Next San Diego County OC meet and greet.

Firemark

Regular Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2010
Messages
445
Location
San Diego
Nice carry meet, small intimate group of 3 OC'rs with spouse and children along, E-checks were friendly and cordial. Answered some curious questions from citizens and recieved accolades from some who knew about OC and supported what we were doing. No negative interactions no one ran screaming, nobody feinted.

Interesting side note, Seems a trend amongst LE (at least La Mesa PD) is to focus and zero in on the first OC'r they see and not be aware of their surroundings. 3 LEO's cue in on 1 of us and approached and conducted one E-check, but all 3 LEO's were so tunnel visioned NONE of them noticed 2 other OC'rs less than 10 feet away just observing. Even when they left the area, they didnt cue in that their was more than one of us.
This is the second time this happend in the same city same street, same beat area.

Appears that sometimes situational awareness gets blinded, perhaps more training or experience is needed, they all looked like pretty young LEO's. Coopers color chart refresher perhaps.
 

ConditionThree

State Pioneer
Joined
May 22, 2006
Messages
2,231
Location
Shasta County, California, USA
Nice carry meet, small intimate group of 3 OC'rs with spouse and children along, E-checks were friendly and cordial. Answered some curious questions from citizens and recieved accolades from some who knew about OC and supported what we were doing. No negative interactions no one ran screaming, nobody feinted.

Interesting side note, Seems a trend amongst LE (at least La Mesa PD) is to focus and zero in on the first OC'r they see and not be aware of their surroundings. 3 LEO's cue in on 1 of us and approached and conducted one E-check, but all 3 LEO's were so tunnel visioned NONE of them noticed 2 other OC'rs less than 10 feet away just observing. Even when they left the area, they didnt cue in that their was more than one of us.
This is the second time this happend in the same city same street, same beat area.

Appears that sometimes situational awareness gets blinded, perhaps more training or experience is needed, they all looked like pretty young LEO's. Coopers color chart refresher perhaps.

This is precisely the advantage of keeping groups small and scattered. Logistically, it makes it impossible for the police to check everyone or to justify returning to check others who join later. This makes the experience more brief and less painful than everyone in your group being searched. It also shows onlookers that no one is going to jail for carrying a gun and not everyone gets hassled.
 

Firemark

Regular Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2010
Messages
445
Location
San Diego
This is precisely the advantage of keeping groups small and scattered. Logistically, it makes it impossible for the police to check everyone or to justify returning to check others who join later. This makes the experience more brief and less painful than everyone in your group being searched. It also shows onlookers that no one is going to jail for carrying a gun and not everyone gets hassled.

Yes this is the tactic I have been using, and encouraging others to emulate, never move in large groups, split up and spread out cover each other with video but stay small 2- 5 max. Especially at large community events with big crowds. If your going to congregate find one place to sit down and be very casual and low key. Having spouses and children and cute friendly leashed dogs present also make you much more approachable too, softer image.

Perfect number to be approachable is 2-3 or a larger sitting group where 1 OC'r gets up to go buy something or use bathroom or move away from group for some reason. Cant tell you how many times this lone OC'r leaving the group gets hit up for some Q+A by a citizen to intimidated to approach a group.
 
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