Results 1 to 4 of 4

Thread: Nc = jim crowe

  1. #1
    Regular Member papa bear's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    mayberry, nc

    Nc = jim crowe

    Another title could be "Pistol Purchase Permits need to go". i know this subject has been kicked around before. but it is aggravating me
    i started to dig more into the PPP. and have come to the conclusion it is one of the most hair brained legislation in the world. it seems that there is no standard for which sheriffs must adhere to, at least i can not find any. but then i may be looking in the wrong places.

    i found this on the NCRPA website


    Q: What is the deal with this Pistol Purchase Permit law? I moved from one NC county to another and found that the Sheriffs of each county have vastly different requirements for getting Permits. Isn't this covered by State law?

    A: The Pistol Purchase Permit law was passed in 1919, and is a classic piece of Jim Crow-era legislation (Jim Crow History). The recognition of civil rights for blacks and other minorities meant that the Constitution applied to minorities. This meant that blacks and other minorities could exercise their natural right to self-defense, with the full support of the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution and Article I, Sec. 30 of the North Carolina Constitution. This did not sit well with the Ku Klux Klan (which for many years was headquartered in Raleigh, just down the street from the Legislature) and other racist groups and influential individuals. The racist members of the State Legislature knew they could not overtly prevent minorities from purchasing handguns for protection, so the seemingly innocent Pistol Purchase Permit law was passed. This law allowed local Sheriffs and government officials to discriminate with impunity at the local level.

    Even today, the Pistol Purchase Permit law is implemented in an arbitrary and capricious fashion by 100 individual County Sheriffs. Some Sheriffs do little more than collect the fees and hand out permits to the law-abiding, because more than that is not necessary. Others implement ridiculous, intrusive requirements that either discriminate on a wholesale basis or are selectively applied so that discrimination can be more personalized.

    With the advent of the National Instant Check System (NICS) there is no public safety reason why the Pistol Purchase Permit system needs to continue. The Jim Crow era is over, and the laws of that era need to be eliminated. Most people agree with that in principle, but for some reason when it comes to guns a significant number of people seem to think that discrimination and arbitrary requirements are a good thing. This is something NCRPA totally disagrees with.

    We have been trying for 10 years to get the Pistol Purchase Permit system completely eliminated. Apparently when it comes to gun control a lot of people think Jim Crow is still a good idea. end qoute

    if anyone has the cite that gives the sheriffs discretion to make up rules, i would appreciate it
    Luke 22:36 ; 36Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

    "guns are like a Parachute, if you don't have one when you need it, you will not need one again"
    - unknown

    i you call a CHP a CCW then you are really stupid. period.

  2. #2
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Hickory, NC, ,
    Agreed. Ask and ye shall receive. Pay attention to Section a numbers 2 and 3.

  3. #3
    Regular Member dmatting's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Durham, NC
    It's interesting how someone can assess the "moral character" of a person by simply reading an application. What a farce.

  4. #4
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    I cant believe you all are asking the state of NC to give up all that free income. At $5 a permit, that can add up to real money for the state. We have bills to pay!! Heck, for $90 bucks, I couldnt even get lamination for my CHP.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts