stainless1911
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My certificate says NRA all over it. I guess I just ASSumed thats how it was.
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Sorry but I've gotta ask a couple CC related questions.
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qqq1
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Can you show me a pic? Info on how you did it?
My class seemed to be fairly good, but it is of course the only class I've taken. I guess all I can really say for sure is the instructors were nice and may the day long class fun. Information about each of my q's was mentioned and I did ask a few quick questions but these were just some specific things that I've recently thought of. There was no talk of OC other then when they said saginaw county people have to meet with the gun board and they may ask you a quick question like "where are the places you cant carry?", and I said "can I start arguing with them about OC in those places?". I can understand why instructors don't want to cover OC it as many people get harassed/detained by leo when following OC law to the letter.
Mine says something about NRA home protection certified. Is that what they all are? And if that's the right class I don't see why they would need to even talk about CC... since it's a class about in home protection.
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SpringerXDacp
New member
Per 28.425j:
(d) The instructor of the course is certified by this state or a national organization to teach the 8-hour pistol safety training course described in this section.
stainless1911
Banned
On the ebrake: I split and bent a pipe to fit the ebrake handle, then welded a plate to it with the mounting holes lined up to the screw holes in the serpa.
Between the seats: I got a flat bar, bolted it to an old seatbelt mount, and welded a mounting plate similarly as above.
hermannr
Regular Member
What the XXXX? Isn't MI an OC state???? http://www.ag.state.mi.us/opinion/datafiles/2000s/op10176.htm
stainless1911
Banned
yes, its an open carry state. We have a lot of lying instructors around here.
Venator
Anti-Saldana Freedom Fighter
Would MCOLES be a state certified organization? So it doesn't have to be NRA, it's just that is the most common national organization that teaches the class. They seem to occupy the field (Imagine that). But the state requirement doesn't say it HAS to be NRA.
Bronson
Regular Member
Gun Owners of America or The Second Amendment Foundation should start certifying instructors.
Bronson
Venator
Anti-Saldana Freedom Fighter
Evil Creamsicle
Regular Member
Or OCDO :-D
stainless1911
Banned
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DrTodd
Michigan Moderator
I looked at the case you reference and it doesn't seem to have anything to do with OC in a stadium; am I missing something?
Venator
Anti-Saldana Freedom Fighter
The pavilion has a "stadium" like structure fpr rodeos, competitions, horse shows etc... It has seating for LESS than 2500. So what to do, is it a stadium for sporting events, an entertainment facility,,,hmmmm we must charge him with something. This case is major Fed up.
She ruled that because he couldn't know it was a stadium he's not guilty so she reversed the conviction. But in her opinion she stated that having a CPL DOES NOT give you the right to OC in the places on .234d.
The defendant was OCing in the pavilion.
Onnie
Regular Member
On the ebrake: I split and bent a pipe to fit the ebrake handle, then welded a plate to it with the mounting holes lined up to the screw holes in the serpa.
Between the seats: I got a flat bar, bolted it to an old seatbelt mount, and welded a mounting plate similarly as above.
Thats a very pretty pink brush you have there fella!
stainless1911
Banned
lol, belongs to a pretty little girl.
xmanhockey7
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Yes MCOLES does. My CPL instructor does the MCOLES and had no NRA training. Taught a good class too.
DrTodd
Michigan Moderator
I think I might have the wrong case; the case I found had nothing to do with firearms. If you have a copy, could you send it to me?
drtoddw@gmail.com
Venator
Anti-Saldana Freedom Fighter
Email sent, but I don't have the case. It has only been filed to the appeals. The decision to overturn the guilty district court decision was done by the circuit court in Ingham Co. I talked with the attorney and he relayed the gist of the case to me over the phone some time ago.
NHCGRPR45
Regular Member
No it does not have to be NRA class It can be MCOLES or an equivalent. I teach an equivalent course certified by the state.
stainless1911
Banned
You..teach stuff...:uhoh: