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    Governor Brown: Warns "I'm going to veto a lot of bills over the next 30 days."

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    September 14, 2011
    Jerry Brown warns of 'veto blues' as he mulls about 600 bills
    Gov. Jerry Brown said this morning that he will veto many of the hundreds of bills passed by the Legislature last week, calling many of them unnecessary.

    "I'm going to veto a lot of bills over the next 30 days," Brown told reporters in Sacramento. "So, I have to say to some, 'Fasten your seat belt, because it's going to be a rough ride. You've given me 600 bills, and there's not 600 problems that we need those solutions for."

    Brown said, "I think there will be plenty of veto blues."

    The Democratic governor is likely to use the veto to demonstrate a record of restraint.

    "Not every human problem needs a law," he said. "That's kind of my first principle that I'll be applying."

    Brown did not say what bills he plans to veto.

    If he does use the veto pen aggressively, it will be a departure: Brown vetoed fewer than 5 percent of regular session bills when he was governor before, from 1975 to 1983.
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    Now, the question remains... is unloaded open carry a human problem that he believes needs a law?
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    I will bet that he will VETO AB144.

    I don't believe he sees UOC as a problem and I don't believe that he sees AB144 supporters putting forth a valid argument considering UOC has always been lawful and the best argument AB144 supporters can come up with is that UOC makes people uncomfortable.

    Although the quote below doesn't specifically relate to the subject at hand, he still has indicated he is a proponent of the right to keep and bear arms thus has an opportunity to express such again.

    Brown has angered gun control proponents, especially when he urged the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn Chicago's handgun ban.

    "I have respect for the Second Amendment," said Brown, who owns three guns and targets shoots occasionally on his ranch east of Chico, Calif. "Gun ownership is a fundamental right."
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    Now is the time for you guys to hit the Governor's office hard with phone calls, emails, letters, visits. The more people he hears from the more likely he will be to veto it. I am hoping for the best for you guys!
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    Doesn't he have less than 30 days? I thought it was something like 12-20 days. Can't remember off the top of my head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolusername2007 View Post
    Doesn't he have less than 30 days? I thought it was something like 12-20 days. Can't remember off the top of my head.
    He has until October 9th- since he is working on 600 bills, we should expect word back before then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ca Patriot View Post
    Jerry Brown is no friend of the 2A. Maybe some of you guys have amnesia.
    Have you called or written the Governor to urge him to veto AB144?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ca Patriot View Post
    Jerry Brown is no friend of the 2A. Maybe some of you guys have amnesia.
    For the moment I don't care if he's pro-2A or an anti, for the moment all I care about is getting him to veto these bills. So everybody who can should call his office. And get your wife, friends, neighbors, etc to call also.

    Our chances for a veto from the left have never been better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ca Patriot View Post
    No. I lost hope in California 8 years ago and bought a condo in another state. I have been basically forced to be here in CA for 9 months of the year due to my work but now my company is leaving and I am done with California. I voted in all the elections and I have always tried to convince people in CA to change but its a lost cause.

    I will now be splitting my time between Hawaii and Montana.

    I have no desire to stay in this state and pay its unjust taxes and be subjected to its unjust laws.

    Sure I could call Jerry Brown, but honestly I dont care anymore. In fact, I will take some delight in watching the continued downfall of California.
    And I will take some delight in adding you to my ignore list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ca Patriot View Post
    No. I lost hope in California 8 years ago and bought a condo in another state. I have been basically forced to be here in CA for 9 months of the year due to my work but now my company is leaving and I am done with California. I voted in all the elections and I have always tried to convince people in CA to change but its a lost cause.

    I will now be splitting my time between Hawaii and Montana.

    I have no desire to stay in this state and pay its unjust taxes and be subjected to its unjust laws.

    Sure I could call Jerry Brown, but honestly I dont care anymore. In fact, I will take some delight in watching the continued downfall of California.
    Good of you to stop by and give us a pep talk. What is heartwarming is your continued and tireless contributions defending liberty where the cause most needs our combined efforts. Thank you for standing the gap for us in our time of need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ca Patriot View Post
    No. I lost hope in California 8 years ago and bought a condo in another state. I have been basically forced to be here in CA for 9 months of the year due to my work but now my company is leaving and I am done with California. I voted in all the elections and I have always tried to convince people in CA to change but its a lost cause.

    I will now be splitting my time between Hawaii and Montana.

    I have no desire to stay in this state and pay its unjust taxes and be subjected to its unjust laws.

    Sure I could call Jerry Brown, but honestly I dont care anymore. In fact, I will take some delight in watching the continued downfall of California.

    You are part of the solution, or just part of the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ca Patriot View Post
    like i said before, california is a lost cause and there is nothing any of us can do.
    With that attitude we would still be putting the king's stamps on all our possessions.

    Thank You, to all of those who fought in the Revolutionary war and didn't take that position.

    Will you be changing your member name too to reflect your decision?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawful Aim View Post
    With that attitude we would still be putting the king's stamps on all our possessions.

    Thank You, to all of those who fought in the Revolutionary war and didn't take that position.

    Will you be changing your member name too to reflect your decision?
    I concur. If everyone took his or her attitude, America would be a nation of transients

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    I am an EX- Kalifornian since 1961. 1978 would be my last visit to the PDRKA.

    I occassionally spend some $$$ online at the Glock Store in San Diego , but that's pretty much it.

    The PDRKA is on my " NO-GO" list along with NJ, NY, Il, DE, MD, and Mexico.

    ANY state that invokes disarmament of the law-abiding as the "remedy" for ARMED gang-banger anarchy is a pathetic failure of governance, and a monument to Lenists social engineering gone amuck.

    Unless this trend is reversed all that will remain in CA will be neo-Marxists professors, their flocks of mind-numbed sheep, and those UNFORTUNATES anchored to California business operations.

    California is NOT to big to fail. The State's Obama-money watering hole is dry, and its Lenists -utopian session-time has expired. Perhaps Jerry Brown IS READING the TEA PARTY leaves, will do the right thing, and start pulling the State back from the abiss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ca Patriot View Post
    No. I lost hope in California 8 years ago and bought a condo in another state. I have been basically forced to be here in CA for 9 months of the year due to my work but now my company is leaving and I am done with California. I voted in all the elections and I have always tried to convince people in CA to change but its a lost cause.

    I will now be splitting my time between Hawaii and Montana.

    I have no desire to stay in this state and pay its unjust taxes and be subjected to its unjust laws.

    Sure I could call Jerry Brown, but honestly I dont care anymore. In fact, I will take some delight in watching the continued downfall of California.
    So, it isn't about YOU, so you "don't care anymore?"

    If you still are a constituent, I urge you to reconsider, for the sake of those still in the state of like mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ca Patriot View Post
    gun rights isnt [sic] the only reason i am leaving california. but make no mistake, i am leaving.

    like i said before, california is a lost cause and there is nothing any of us can do.

    even if the state granted me the right to carry a bazooka inside a school that was inside a federal building i wouldnt stay here.
    Here, allow me to put my rebuke another way;

    “Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!” Samuel Adams
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    Quote Originally Posted by rushcreek2 View Post
    ANY state that invokes disarmament of the law-abiding as the "remedy" for ARMED gang-banger anarchy is a pathetic failure of governance, and a monument to Lenists social engineering gone amuck.
    .
    Wait, Delaware is an open carry state.... are you talking about a state of emergency or something like that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ca Patriot View Post
    That quote was specifically about rising VIOLENTLY against a foreign/federal government. He was talking about the British and a revolution.

    The founding fathers clearly created states and states rights with the intent that if you didnt like your state you could move to another one with laws more to your liking.

    Maybe you havent noticed but California has 39 million people and at least 8 million of them are illegal aliens.

    Sorry, but I dont have the voting power to overcome that.

    Back to your quote though, if you are suggesting or promoting a violent civil war to replace current tyranical governments in America, I wouldnt be opposed to that. In all honesty, its a cause I will pick up a weapon for. But until that day comes, I will be enjoying the warm surf of Hawaii and the beautiful fishing of Montana with lower taxes and more freedom than California.

    Call me when you are ready to fire the first shot, until then, spare me your Sam Adams idolation.
    This forum advocates law abiding activity and changing the laws we don't like by working through our respective state legislatures. Those in states like CA, MD, NY, NJ and others obey the law and work to change the law -- and DONT advocate ignoring them or overthrowing the institutions that create them. Yes, you have the right to leave California just as I have the right to circumvent its borders. If I had to move to a restrictive state, I wouldn't throw in the towel. I would obey the law and work to get it changed. By the way, this forum DOES NOT ADVOCATE COMMITTING ACTS OF TREASON TO ACCOMPLISH OUR MISSION OF ADVOCATING RESPONSIBLE OPEN CARRY. Anti-gun activists will be watching these forums and your comment of being willing to violently overthrow the legitimate government of the United States is uncalled for and not helpful to our cause. And spare me the history lesson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ca Patriot View Post
    That quote was specifically about rising VIOLENTLY against a foreign/federal government. He was talking about the British and a revolution.

    The founding fathers clearly created states and states rights with the intent that if you didnt like your state you could move to another one with laws more to your liking.

    Maybe you havent noticed but California has 39 million people and at least 8 million of them are illegal aliens.

    Sorry, but I dont have the voting power to overcome that.

    Back to your quote though, if you are suggesting or promoting a violent civil war to replace current tyranical governments in America, I wouldnt be opposed to that. In all honesty, its a cause I will pick up a weapon for. But until that day comes, I will be enjoying the warm surf of Hawaii and the beautiful fishing of Montana with lower taxes and more freedom than California.

    Call me when you are ready to fire the first shot, until then, spare me your Sam Adams idolation.
    Only a dolt would conclude that I meant to invoke revolution in the context our discussion. I will put it to you in such plain language that even you can understand the meaning.

    If you do not intend to lend your support for the cause of liberty in California, leave- and we will be happy to forget you ever existed.

    We have no room in our memories to abide those who scorn our struggle, calling our efforts vanity and retreat to the safety behind other state lines.
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    Irrelevant, disruptive poster placed on 'ignore'. We now continue with our regularly scheduled thread "Governor Brown: Warns "I'm going to veto a lot of bills over the next 30 days."
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