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    City of Delavan considering posting

    I have it on good authority this will be brought up in October. I will let you know when I find out when.

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    I thought I had posted this. The city council is considering this 10/4 5:30 pm. I do not know the content of the ordinance. Please show up if you can!!! I will be there.

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    perhapse it is time to play hard ball with them; let them know if they pass the ordinance, that we will regard Delevan as a hostile carry environment, and end the Bux meets there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grant53 View Post
    You could not play hard ball with anyone, you and the other moron caved once, nancy boys like you and the rest of the tough talkers on this forum are in reality gutless nobodys.
    And what exactly have you done to help with in WI logables/StalkingHorse/sheller/troll?
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    Quote Originally Posted by grant53 View Post
    You could not play hard ball with anyone, you and the other moron caved once, nancy boys like you and the rest of the tough talkers on this forum are in reality gutless nobodys.
    anytime you want to dance just come on down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grant53 View Post
    You could not play hard ball with anyone, you and the other moron caved once, nancy boys like you and the rest of the tough talkers on this forum are in reality gutless nobodys.
    Someone crap in your corn flakes this morning?
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    Quote Originally Posted by grant53 View Post
    After the cops scared you a few years ago and you faked a move to Indiana, that pretty much sez it all about you.
    I have the bills to prove I moved moron. Cops didn't scare me. I was unemployed and found a job in another state. You are completely clueless about everything aren't you?
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    I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians. - George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

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    Please, let's ignore grant53 and let the mods take care of him. Responding just strokes his ego.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul@paul-fisher.com View Post
    Please, let's ignore grant53 and let the mods take care of him. Responding just strokes his ego.
    I've already reported him. Just post a link on John's facebook account to get him to see it faster.
    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson (1776)

    If you go into a store, with a gun, and rob it, you have forfeited your right to not get shot - Joe Deters, Hamilton County (Cincinnati) Prosecutor

    I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians. - George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

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    grant53 sing this song; doo-dah, doo-dah. he dont know s*** all day long, oh the doo-day day..............

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    Thumbs up The Troll Keeps Coming Back...And We Keep Catching It.

    With trolls like it it is making life difficult for any true newcomers to OCDO...at least in the Wisconsin forum. It's pretty easy to see them for what they are when they post garbage as grant53 did.

    Wouldn't it be interesting to actually meet this person or persons who are so against Americans exercising their rights? It hides behind a keyboard and never attends a single open carry event or meeting of any kind. I wonder why it won't come out and actually meet the people it is putting down?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rcawdor57 View Post
    With trolls like it it is making life difficult for any true newcomers to OCDO...at least in the Wisconsin forum. It's pretty easy to see them for what they are when they post garbage as grant53 did.

    Wouldn't it be interesting to actually meet this person or persons who are so against Americans exercising their rights? It hides behind a keyboard and never attends a single open carry event or meeting of any kind. I wonder why it won't come out and actually meet the people it is putting down?
    It is either Spartacus or one of his "friends." If they hate liberty so much, why don't they move to a place that hates it as well, like North Korea?
    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson (1776)

    If you go into a store, with a gun, and rob it, you have forfeited your right to not get shot - Joe Deters, Hamilton County (Cincinnati) Prosecutor

    I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians. - George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

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    or illinois?

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    OK. Just got back. The committee recommended that an ordinance get crafted that will allow Delavan to issue the tickets and get the fines instead of the state but to NOT post City of Delavan building.

    Common Council meeting is next Tuesday 10/11 at 6:30 pm.

    I HAVE to go to the Walworth County Board meeting that night to try to talk them out of passing an ordinance passed by 2 committees unanimously. Can someone PLEASE go to Delavan city council meeting to make sure they don't slip something in?

    Thanks!

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    OK, can someone help me out? This is the ordinance they were considering last night. According to the city attorney, this would of made them post the buildings:

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19481227/Delavan%20Proposal.pdf

    Here's the link to the current city laws:

    http://ci.delavan.wi.us.bookwood.com.../municipal.pdf

    The way I read the memo, they just change their existing ordinances to allow Delavan PD to issue the tickets and keep the revenue. I don't see the 'no firearms in public buildings' language, or am I missing something?

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    OK, the Common Council is meeting this Tuesday 10/11 at 6:30 pm.

    Here is the agenda: http://ci.delavan.wi.us.bookwood.com/ci.delavan.wi.us/pdfs/meetings_avm/cc_2011-10-11_agenda.pdf

    Here is the packet: http://ci.delavan.wi.us.bookwood.com/ci.delavan.wi.us/pdfs/meetings_avm/cc_2011-10-11_agenda.pdf

    The stuff we care about starts on page 14 and goes through 18. Notice the General Operations Committee recommended not posting and this 'cleanup' of city ordinances is intended ONLY to allow the Delavan PD to issue the tickets and keep the money instead of the state getting the forfeitures.

    The way I read it, if the Common Council doesn't change anything, we need to support it. Please someone correct me if I missed something.

    I will NOT be there Tuesday night because I believe going in front of the Walworth County board is more important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcawdor57
    I wonder why it won't come out and actually meet the people it is putting down?
    Um... that might show it the error of its ways?
    It doesn't want its mind changed?

    Quote Originally Posted by paul
    this 'cleanup' of city ordinances is intended ONLY to allow the Delavan PD to issue the tickets and keep the money instead of the state getting the forfeitures.
    They can't issue tickets if they don't post, because there won't be any 'crime' to ticket for.
    (Yes, I know a ticket/forfeiture is not a crime.)
    I'll see about being there Tues. evening. Not for sure I can do it.
    Can you PM me info on where/when, please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MKEgal View Post
    Um... that might show it the error of its ways?
    It doesn't want its mind changed?


    They can't issue tickets if they don't post, because there won't be any 'crime' to ticket for.
    (Yes, I know a ticket/forfeiture is not a crime.)
    I'll see about being there Tues. evening. Not for sure I can do it.
    Can you PM me info on where/when, please?
    Tickets for carrying in the police station, carrying in an active court room, carrying in a private business that had posted, discharging a firearm in the city and it isn't self-defense.

    PM sent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul
    Tickets for carrying in the police station, carrying in an active court room, carrying in a private business that had posted, discharging a firearm in the city and it isn't self-defense.

    Duh.
    I think maybe it's time to print off my notes for tomorrow & go to bed.
    My brain certainly isn't functioning...

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