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Secret recordings raise new questions in ATF 'Gunwalker' operation

Deanimator

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rodbender said:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...t__furious_before_holder_claimed_he_knew.html

http://www.rollcall.com/news/eric_h...hite_house_press_aide-209487-1.html?pos=hftxt
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It reminds me of the "testimony" in some of the show trials in Stalin's great purge.

There was SO much "evidence" (99.999999% of it total BS) presented against the defendants, that inevitably the fabricators of that "evidence" sometimes screwed up. People would be forced to confess to having been places they'd never been, places where they were documented to have NOT been on the date cited, and places that didn't exist. This reminds me of that.
 
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rodbender said:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/10/14/earlyshow/main20120395.shtml
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"Police say Jean Baptiste Kingery, a U.S. citizen, was a veritable grenade machine. He's accused of smuggling parts for as many as 2,000 grenades into Mexico for killer drug cartels -- sometimes under the direct watch of U.S. law enforcement."

So, the "grenades are weapons-of-choice for the cartels. An attack on Aug. 25 in a Monterrey, Mexico casino killed 53 people" has to do with the same BATF "enterprises" over the last year...

Why am I not surprised? The only thing that surprises me is that they haven't managed to straiten up and fly right.

I expected better from Americans.
 
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Deanimator said:
There was SO much "evidence" (99.999999% of it total BS) presented against the defendants, that inevitably the fabricators of that "evidence" sometimes screwed up. People would be forced to confess to having been places they'd never been, places where they were documented to have NOT been on the date cited, and places that didn't exist.
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Then please, Deanimator, continue to join in these discussions to help ensure those sorts of atrocities never happen again.

It is, in part, why I'm here. Why are you here?
 
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Dreaminator,

What part of this "evidence" are you objecting to? The fact that it is being dug up and trolled to the public, or is there an issue with whether or not Holder was specific enough to indicate an in-depth knowledge of actual field tactics?

Either way, it was HIS JOB to know what his departments were doing and how they were doing it to ensure compliance with the laws of the US. Again, HIS JOB!
 
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okboomer said:
Dreaminator,

What part of this "evidence" are you objecting to? The fact that it is being dug up and trolled to the public, or is there an issue with whether or not Holder was specific enough to indicate an in-depth knowledge of actual field tactics?
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I'm not referring to the evidence AGAINST the BATFE. I'm referring to the "evidence" produced BY the BATFE.

Their campaign against gun ownership is the same sort of conglomeration of outrageous lies as that of Stalin against his opponents.
 
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This makes me sick; Just answer the damn question Mr. Holder: Who authorized allowing the guns to walk??? You're either a bad liar or completely inept; possibly both.

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If the objective of F&F was to ascertain "whether " the guns would end up in Mexico, or elsewhere in the U.S. in the hands of criminals - this has to be the stupidist operation in U.S. history.

If the objective was to "show" that guns sold in the U.S. were ending up in Mexico ( with the help of the BATFE & FBI)- the operation "succeeded".

In either case heads need to roll, and/or "somebody" needs to go to prison.
 
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Personally I never doubted the Occupant's involvement ... most definitely in light of his "under the radar" comment about gun control ... the problem will be bringing the proof out in such a way that it CAN'T be swept under the rug ... not holding my breath, tho -
 
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