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    Most important bill for 2012 session already filed!!

    http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2012/20

    Forget our infringed rights. Some of you on this forum will no doubt remember Mr. Brian Pitts from the hearings on SB 234.
    “If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind? ” -Bastiat

    I don't "need" to openly carry a handgun or own an "assault weapon" any more than Rosa Parks needed a seat on the bus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 77zach View Post
    http://www.flsenate.gov/session/bill/2012/20

    forget our infringed rights. Some of you on this forum will no doubt remember mr. Brian pitts from the hearings on sb 234.
    wtf???
    False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by mach1chris View Post
    wtf???
    You can't get it if you didn't see the videos of the committee hearings on open carry. The cheese has fallen off Mr. Pitts' cracker, so to speak. He's a clown who testifies on hundreds of bills every year.
    “If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind? ” -Bastiat

    I don't "need" to openly carry a handgun or own an "assault weapon" any more than Rosa Parks needed a seat on the bus.

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    Ah yes, Mr. Pitts. That guy is very odd for sure.

    On another note, please see:

    S-118 about a tax on bottled water. (bring in more money to the state)
    S-224 about reclassification of "Public Corruption" (the people who make these laws)
    S-284 about repealing the drug testing requirement for public assistance. (the state gives out more money)

    Is there a pattern here?

    I find it hard to believe these people can still get paid, make laws and then complain because I just want some basic 2nd Amendment freedom.

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    and here you had me thinking we had an open carry bill filed. Anyone got any word on that? (not trying to derail your thread here)
    “The claim and exercise of a constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime.”
    [Miller vs. U.S., 230 F. Supp. 486, 489 (1956)]
    “There can be no sanction or penalty imposed upon one because of his exercise of constitutional rights.”
    [Sherar vs. Cullen, 481 F2d. 946 (1973)]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schlitz View Post
    and here you had me thinking we had an open carry bill filed. Anyone got any word on that? (not trying to derail your thread here)
    That's the reason I was searching around in those bills last night. Was hoping to see something coming up on Open Carry.

    I'll keep looking.

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    Lets just get rid of the word "Briefly"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADulay View Post
    That's the reason I was searching around in those bills last night. Was hoping to see something coming up on Open Carry.

    I'll keep looking.

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    My strategy might be to file no "open carry bill" at all. Why garner all that negative attention? If I could get one or two of my fellow senators to switch sides, and if there is another gun bill going to the senate floor affecting 790 (which I imagine there will be), then an amendment that strikes a certain pesky word is put on the desk....... "senator 77zach offered the following" Ha!
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    “If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind? ” -Bastiat

    I don't "need" to openly carry a handgun or own an "assault weapon" any more than Rosa Parks needed a seat on the bus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 77zach View Post
    My strategy might be to file no "open carry bill" at all. Why garner all that negative attention? If I could get one or two of my fellow senators to switch sides, and if there is another gun bill going to the senate floor affecting 790 (which I imagine there will be), then an amendment that strikes a certain pesky word is put on the desk....... "senator 77zach offered the following" Ha!
    jajajaja!!! I say we should all become Senators. If I was, I may not get everything I ever wanted to get done but believe me you guys will see open carry in Florida.
    False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10x View Post
    Lets just get rid of the word "Briefly"
    Thats what most likely to happen.
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    okay, now that the thread is derailed:


    What can we do RIGHT NOW, I feel sort of useless sitting behind my computer. I've read previously that it is being worked on and such, but is anything solid? Is there anything that Florida Open Carry needs us to do as individuals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schlitz View Post
    okay, now that the thread is derailed:


    What can we do RIGHT NOW, I feel sort of useless sitting behind my computer. I've read previously that it is being worked on and such, but is anything solid? Is there anything that Florida Open Carry needs us to do as individuals?
    Call and email you're senators.
    False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by mach1chris View Post
    Call and email you're senators.
    I am not a Senator....grammar joke...lol

    Help those of us who are not from Florida. Who is Brian Pitts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigsd View Post
    I am not a Senator....grammar joke...lol

    Help those of us who are not from Florida. Who is Brian Pitts?
    I have no idea for I don't really pay much attention to those people in office expect for a select few, but I'm guessing he is just another grandstanding ******* thats all for big business instead of for peoples rights.
    False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigsd View Post
    I am not a Senator....grammar joke...lol

    Help those of us who are not from Florida. Who is Brian Pitts?
    Brian Pitts is a perennial favorite of Florida legislative committee hearings. He represents his own organization, "Justice 4 Jesus" (yes, he spells it that way), and attends multiple committee meetings, providing rambling testimony having little to do with the subject at hand. The legislature generally regards him as the court jester.
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