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    WSP close encounter

    On 9/25/2011 my family, friends and I were out for a walk in Monroe, I was open carrying. Several passing vehicles took notice as I was walking strong side towards the road. On the last half of our walk 3 WSP vehicles drove past as we were passing Frylands Elementry School, I was only audio recording at that time.

    We decide to grab a bite to eat at Subway just up the road, as we walk up I notice the WSP vehicles outside and turn on my streaming video recorder. We walk in, order & eat without issues, the officers did notice my firearm. As we leave, I notice the WSP vehicles are still parked out in the parking lot, even though they left the store several minutes prior. We decide to finish our walk around the lake, which is in the direction of the WSP vehicles. The officers took note as we walked by and left shortly after we walk by, it seems they may have been waiting for me to leave... who knows.

    In the end, there was no interaction with WSP other than a nod on there part. This was my first close encounter with WSP while open carrying. I have had similar good experiences with other local LEO.

    I am thinking about FOIA any MWAG calls during my walk.

    I created a audio/video for those interested.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOMmtVoEpts
    Last edited by slapmonkay; 09-26-2011 at 01:46 PM. Reason: Fix date

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    Seems you had more apprehension then the Officers did, a good thing.
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    Wsp

    WSP knows who we are, they know the law. It is WSP that patrols the capitol grounds where we have held 2 Second Amendment Rallies and they have posed for pictures with OCDO members.

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    A non-event with Washington State Patrol is exactly what I would expect. Among all LEAs in the state, they have shown the most professionalism and understanding about OC, and firearms law in general.

    Thanks for the good report.

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    My bride with WSP, she's carrying an XD-9. I dont think the officers were concerned
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orphan View Post
    My bride with WSP, she's carrying an XD-9. I dont think the officers were concerned
    They wear bowties? That is pretty funky....

    Pretty cool that they are willing to pose with you guys.
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    The WSP is the best trained, most professional, police force in Washington State. In 40 years of OC I have never had anything negative happen with them. They are number 1! (The Okanogan Sheriff is right in there with them on that scale!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigsd View Post
    They wear bowties? That is pretty funky....
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    yeah the bow tie is funky, but they were best dressed state troopers in the country in 2007...

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    Quote Originally Posted by slapmonkay View Post
    On 9/26/2011
    the most interesting thing I think is about this post is that you were OCing in the FUTURE!!! time traveling sidearms w00t!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FMCDH View Post
    A non-event with Washington State Patrol is exactly what I would expect. Among all LEAs in the state, they have shown the most professionalism and understanding about OC, and firearms law in general.

    Thanks for the good report.
    Quote Originally Posted by hermannr View Post
    The WSP is the best trained, most professional, police force in Washington State. In 40 years of OC I have never had anything negative happen with them. They are number 1! (The Okanogan Sheriff is right in there with them on that scale!).

    Yep have had nothing but positive encounters with WSP concerning OC. I even have a WSP evidence sticker on my gun I leave it there to remind me of the whole tragic situation and how professional they were.
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    Any 911 call for MWAG would not be sent to the WSP. City or County would be the responders. These were just officers taking their "break" together.
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    Thank you for the comments everyone. I did go into this thinking the worst, so I was ready if something did happen. Boy scout motto, ‘always be prepared’.

    When I left the Subway and noticed they were still hanging around 5 or 10 minutes after they walked out, I was expecting some sort of interaction. When the wife and I decided to finish our walk and walk directly past the patrol cars I expected them to jump out from behind a bush or car and start the questions. I was pleasantly surprised that they left a few moments after we walked by. The question in my mind is, if they were hanging out waiting for me to leave or if they were actually doing work sitting in the parking lot, one will never know. I would still have to give a good grade to WSP even though it felt like they were stalking me in the parking lot, I give an A-. A+ if they left immediately after they leave the store.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage206 View Post
    the most interesting thing I think is about this post is that you were OCing in the FUTURE!!! time traveling sidearms w00t!!!
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    [QUOTE=slapmonkay;1617206]Thank you for the comments everyone. I did go into this thinking the worst, so I was ready if something did happen. Boy scout motto, ‘always be prepared’.

    When I left the Subway and noticed they were still hanging around 5 or 10 minutes after they walked out, I was expecting some sort of interaction. When the wife and I decided to finish our walk and walk directly past the patrol cars I expected them to jump out from behind a bush or car and start the questions. I was pleasantly surprised that they left a few moments after we walked by. The question in my mind is, if they were hanging out waiting for me to leave or if they were actually doing work sitting in the parking lot, one will never know. I would still have to give a good grade to WSP even though it felt like they were stalking me in the parking lot, I give an A-. A+ if they left immediately after they leave the store.


    Slapmonkay In my book you get an A+ too, many would have not left the Subway until WSP was gone. This is exactly how OC should be. I would never expect any LEO to not notice, not to have a look, not to check me or you out, what I do expect is that if no laws are being broken we are left alone. That is exactly what happened to you, bravo for the WSP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hermannr View Post
    The WSP is the best trained, most professional, police force in Washington State. In 40 years of OC I have never had anything negative happen with them. They are number 1! (The Okanogan Sheriff is right in there with them on that scale!).
    having met a couple Port of Seattle police in a ride-along, I would be willing to bet that they'd take issue with that statement
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    I must admit that I never had any encounter with any LEO concerning OC. However, I have been pulled over by WSP and they are the most professional group of people I have ever met on the LEO side. *tips hat*

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    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignAxe View Post
    having met a couple Port of Seattle police in a ride-along, I would be willing to bet that they'd take issue with that statement
    Try OCing at Seatac Airport. It is always hit or miss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jchen012 View Post
    Try OCing at Seatac Airport. It is always hit or miss.
    There have been a few in the past even physically assaulted if I remember right for OCing at SeaTac Airport. I have had no issues there.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    I saw a guy OCing at seatac on Sunday when I flew in. Would have stopped to ask if he was a member on OCDO but I had a football game to get to. No one there seemed to be giving him a second glance.


    Thumbs up to WSP, I've never had a problem with the way they do business.

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