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    Just go along with it

    A couple weeks ago, I was driving with my 3 kids, 6, 4, and 3 years old. As any of you who live here in Indiana and have kids probably already know, the law concerning kids in booster seats is rather ridiculous. They have to sit in them until they're 6' tall, 240 lbs, or 17 years old, whichever comes last. Ok, that's an exagerration, but it's still kind of strange to most of us my age (31) or older who never sat in a booster seat.

    At any rate, I was driving downtown and stopped at a light when a SBPD officer on a motorcycle pulled up next to me and motioned for me to roll down my window. I did so. Our conversation went about like this:

    Him: are your kids in seat belts?
    Me: yes.
    Him: How old are they?
    Me: 6, 4, 3
    Him: are they in booster seats?
    Me (incredulous): yeah...
    Him: Well they need to be in bigger booster seats.
    Me: ... ... ...
    Light changed, I pulled away.

    Now at this point, I could have done 2 things: 1) I could have gone directly to the store and bought bigger booster seats for my kids, or 2) I could have gone home, looked up the law for myself, checked the specs on the booster seats, and been content that I was following the law and that my kids were safe.

    I chose 2, as you probably already guessed, because you chose 2 as well. I went home, checked the law and the booster seats and confirmed that I was within the law and that my kids were safe.

    Now why am I telling this story? You're an OCer; you're smart; you've already guessed the answer. We know the law. We safely carry firearms in a holster that happens to be visible, yet police officers insist on their opinion that we should hide our guns.

    This is the (true) story that I used to respond to someone who told me concerning Magenheimer @ Evansville Zoo that he should have gone along with it and taken the path of least resistance. He conceded that I was right in not complying with the SBPD motorcycle cop's opinion, but still thought that it was ok for evansville PD to demand compliance with their opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cce1302 View Post
    ...He conceded that I was right in not complying with the SBPD motorcycle cop's opinion, but still thought that it was ok for evansville PD to demand compliance with their opinion.
    Which means that you have defined the point at which this person abandons rational logic and reverts back to emotional feeling-based processing.

    I wish logic was all it took.

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    Many LEOs should just keep their opinions to themselves and do what they are paid by us to do (enforce the LAWS). Too many tend to think they are paid to enforce their opinions.

    Most LEOs I've encountered are very opinionated on OC, but they leave it at a suggestion to CC and move on.

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    As to kids, seat belts and booster seats:

    Have you ever seen either in a school bus?

    I bet those nannies would have a fit is they saw my wife and our 5 daughters, all in the cab of a regular cab 1966 Ford Pickup going out for a hike in the mountains, Eh?

    Back then no-one thought anything at all about doing something like that. Everyone did it that way. Crew cab pickups were logger's crummies, not for families.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hermannr View Post
    As to kids, seat belts and booster seats:

    Have you ever seen either in a school bus?

    I bet those nannies would have a fit is they saw my wife and our 5 daughters, all in the cab of a regular cab 1966 Ford Pickup going out for a hike in the mountains, Eh?

    Back then no-one thought anything at all about doing something like that. Everyone did it that way. Crew cab pickups were logger's crummies, not for families.
    Supposovly the seats offer the protection. Thats why they are the size they are.

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    Good story! Thanks for sharing it

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