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    Lok-It Up program (King County funded)

    Interesting program funded by tax payers:

    http://www.kingcounty.gov/healthserv...y/lokitup.aspx

    Kinda stepping outside the legitimate area of a health agency imho.

    "Gun Facts" http://www.kingcounty.gov/healthserv...earmfacts.aspx
    Here's a tip, focus on helping fat people lose weight and you'll save more lives and money than you would by destroying every gun in the state.
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    I like that they are encouraging people to lock up firearms not in their immediate control but this seems like it is painting a misleading picture. I wonder how many of these firearm related incidents were due to crime, parental abuse, suicide, etc. I know that the average citizen looking at those "facts" probably is not going to think about that. Most people do not know that the number one cause of death for children in the U.S. is the parents, whether through neglect or abuse.
    I agree that this is indeed outside the realm of the health department. This will just lead to more uninformed people running around quoting "facts" instead of finding the information for themselves and making their own decision. Instead people seem more than willing to turn their ability of free will and thought over to somebody else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by decklin View Post
    I like that they are encouraging people to lock up firearms not in their immediate control but this seems like it is painting a misleading picture. I wonder how many of these firearm related incidents were due to crime, parental abuse, suicide, etc. I know that the average citizen looking at those "facts" probably is not going to think about that. Most people do not know that the number one cause of death for children in the U.S. is the parents, whether through neglect or abuse.
    I agree that this is indeed outside the realm of the health department. This will just lead to more uninformed people running around quoting "facts" instead of finding the information for themselves and making their own decision. Instead people seem more than willing to turn their ability of free will and thought over to somebody else.
    Perhaps a study of how many children die from firearm accidents vs neglect while in the "custody" of DSHS CPS division would be more revealing. How many children have died from beatings, starvation, and other forms of neglect while wards of the State and under the watchful (?) umbrella of CPS? How many have died during the same period from firearm accidents?

    It may be possible that more children could be saved by "Locking Up CPS".
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    Storing firearms locked and unloaded, with ammunition locked separately, can reduce the risk of injuries and deaths involving children and teens.

    And the life expectancy of the burglars victims no matter what there age:



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    http://www.dshs.wa.gov/pdf/ca/fatalitiesinwa.pdf

    DSHS report on child fatalities for last few years.

    quick says 3500 kids dies from 2005 to 2009 roughly 100 were from firearms from the lok-itup site data.
    150 deaths look to have occured with an open case according to the report so yes CPS had more deaths, though I expect there was overlap in the numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitaeus View Post
    http://www.dshs.wa.gov/pdf/ca/fatalitiesinwa.pdf

    DSHS report on child fatalities for last few years.

    quick says 3500 kids dies from 2005 to 2009 roughly 100 were from firearms from the lok-itup site data.
    150 deaths look to have occured with an open case according to the report so yes CPS had more deaths, though I expect there was overlap in the numbers.
    Does it say how they defined "child"? IIRC, the last time the antis wanted to do something "for the children" the numbers they used required them to define "child" all the way up to age 19 and the incidents they cited included teenage gangbangers killed in drive-bys. There's only one thing on earth more suspect than a jobs program from the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and that is child death/injury statistics used to justify any sort of "gun safety" program. Good thing I don't live in King County or I would have to start an effort to stop this waste of the taxpayers money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lammo View Post
    Good thing I don't live in King County or I would have to start an effort to stop this waste of the taxpayers money.
    It's a REAL good thing you don't live in King County. You'd have so many choices as to which wastes of money to stop you wouldn't have time to work.

    You ought to see some of the "Art for Public Works projects" that consume millions of public funds. Like a bunch of painted junk tires that croak like frogs at a waste transfer station for one.

    Isn't it amazing how much money can be wasted on "feel good" projects that in the end don't accomplish a thing.
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