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Got out of a $800+ ticket for carrying a 1911..
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carracer
Regular Member
So, you get pulled over. Officer comes to the car and you inform him. Officer takes your papers back to his car. Then he comes back up and disarms you? Seems like he would have done that when you told him you were armed. This is the only thread I have -ever- read where an officer actually went further than just remove the mag and cleared the chamber.
heresolong
Regular Member
Really? My brother got hurt about ten years ago in a motorcycle crash while he didn't have medical insurance. No one is paying his bills. He is making payments to the hospital.
My wife had some expenses while visiting family that were not covered by our medical insurance. No one paid our bills. We made payments to the medical company that did the treatment.
Where does this idea come from that the uninsured are being paid for by everyone else? Honestly. I don't know. Unless they are just skipping town after giving a false name.
OCd all over my house last night, just to keep this on topic.
amzbrady
Regular Member
You go girl... I also was hit by a motorist that was Driving on a suspended, Uninsured, and expired tags from Alaska, My wife was 7 months pregnant at the time and started having slight contractions, luckily all they did was have her drink 24oz of water to stop the contractions. Our car got totalled. WSP let the other guy drive away after getting his info. I had to pay the tow truck driver, A rental, I learned that day why the Insurance agent had tried so hard to talk me into getting Uninsured Motorist insurance, and why you should have GAP insurance on a vehicle you are making payments on. I had to come up with over $1200 for a down payment on a new car. The only blessing was, I took him to small claims court and when he no showed I won by default. The blessing was he was buying a house. 3 years later when he went to refinance it, all liens had to be paid and I got back almost half of what the accident cost me. I didnt really enjoy having to pay another year on a car in a junk yard. So sorry no pity for people who drive without insurance. I would like to see laws like Philly. No insurance you lose your tags and if the car hits the road, auto impoundment.
Government mandated health care is completly different. I YOU get sick, that doesnt effect my family and cost me thousands. If YOU dont have insurance and hit me, that does effect my family and cost me thousands.
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Or better yet Pawn shops will give you enough for your gun that you can pay for insurance...
dadada
Regular Member
Really? My brother got hurt about ten years ago in a motorcycle crash while he didn't have medical insurance. No one is paying his bills. He is making payments to the hospital.
My wife had some expenses while visiting family that were not covered by our medical insurance. No one paid our bills. We made payments to the medical company that did the treatment.
Where does this idea come from that the uninsured are being paid for by everyone else? Honestly. I don't know. Unless they are just skipping town after giving a false name.
OCd all over my house last night, just to keep this on topic.
I work for the largest medical system in Pierce county. Trust me when I say, we loose MILLIONS every year to people that don't have any qualms in getting medical treatment and never paying a dime! Want to know why? We can't turn people away. We can go after them, but how much money do you think you can collect from a gang-banger that gets shot and dumped at one of our ER's? Try garnishing wages from some POS that's never held a job. Blood from a stone. I've got a mentally ill, alcoholic neighbor thats been to ER's more than 30 times in the last 16 months. He gets raging drunk, calls 911 threatening suiside and gets carted off in an ambulance. Sobers up in the ER, which may take a couple of days because of the volumne he drinks. Get a buck from him? Nope. All on our dime.
Guys that works at 7-11 and barely makes rent but has no insurance and has an appendix rupture. Can afford to make payments of $10 at most, on a $40,000 bill. It would cost more to process his payment than we would collect. Happens all day, every day. Those charges have to be paid by someone.
amlevin
Regular Member
Where does this idea come from that the uninsured are being paid for by everyone else? Honestly. I don't know. Unless they are just skipping town after giving a false name.
OCd all over my house last night, just to keep this on topic.
Check out the recent news release from Swedish Hospital in Seattle. Over $20 million in medical charges written off because hospitals can't turn down anyone who comes in the door, insured or not. These "millions" will be recovered in the form of higher fees in the future which then become higher insurance premiums.
If you choose to go through life "naked" meaning uninsured in this context you will end up paying even higher costs because you won't get the discounts negotiated by the Insurance Companies.
As for just "leaving town", or giving a false name, probably a few of those but the biggest losses are from just plain noncollectable medical debt. They may be close to curing cancer but they'll never figure out how to get blood from a stone.
It's commendable that you, your wife, and brother are paying your debt to the medical facility. Unfortunately all too many just file a medical bankruptcy and essentially walk away leaving the bill to be spread around to all the others that pay.
Jeff Hayes
Regular Member
Keep in mind that in order to make the 20 million back assuming a 5% profit margin they need to do 400 million worth of medical care just to get back to even.
Aaron1124
Regular Member
Too many people throwing stones on here. Clean out your own closet before you focus on his. I am sure those of you casting stones, at some point, have broken the speed limit, not come to a complete stop while turning right on a red light or at a stop sign, or purposely didn't signal when changing lanes.
amlevin
Regular Member
Ahah! Someone else who understands how a business works.
Not like some who would say "but they can make it up in volume"
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gogodawgs
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Actually aaron, having been cited 9 times for speeding in the last 25 years...I have zero convictions.:shocker:
Metalhead47
Regular Member
That's because we carry insurance so that if any said actions cause harm to another at our fault, they other party will not be financially responsible.
Sparky508
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Glasshouses and all.....................
Many years ago, I had my 1066 returned to me in a plastic bag, dissasembed, and mag emptied. If I remember right, it was a state patrol, in Orting. He tossed the bag full of parts into my window, told me it was my lucky day, and proceeded to burn off half his tires getting to somebody more deserving of his attentions or affections.
Have had some pretty strange encounters, but none more so than that.
Many years ago, I had my 1066 returned to me in a plastic bag, dissasembed, and mag emptied. If I remember right, it was a state patrol, in Orting. He tossed the bag full of parts into my window, told me it was my lucky day, and proceeded to burn off half his tires getting to somebody more deserving of his attentions or affections.
Have had some pretty strange encounters, but none more so than that.
DocWalker
Regular Member
Many years ago, I had my 1066 returned to me in a plastic bag, dissasembed, and mag emptied. If I remember right, it was a state patrol, in Orting. He tossed the bag full of parts into my window, told me it was my lucky day, and proceeded to burn off half his tires getting to somebody more deserving of his attentions or affections.
Have had some pretty strange encounters, but none more so than that.
See this is where I would have gone to the state patrol office and made a formal complaint, I woul have also contacted the govenors office with a formal complaint about the officer his treatment of priviate property, the citizen (me), and his burning out of the tires I as a taxpayer paid for. For me I attended the academy in Idaho and I would have gone straight there for my quest for justice. It actually sounds like the officer was afraid, he probably peeled out so he could get away thinking you would assemble your pistol and shoot him. He shouldn't be an officer as he will hurt someone someday.