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Would it be considered concealed when they put the apron on you? I was thinking I could just make sure the apron doesn't cover the gun from the side, like hold the edge on the chair arm so someone standing next to me could still see the whole handgun from the side.
Also in regards to traveling by bicycle to the place :
Would it be considered concealed when they put the apron on you? I was thinking I could just make sure the apron doesn't cover the gun from the side, like hold the edge on the chair arm so someone standing next to me could still see the whole handgun from the side.
Also in regards to traveling by bicycle to the place :
I believe the msp site said concealed was 'not visible to a casual observer'
So pretty much anytime sitting down, such as at a restaurant table, or leaning against a wall sideways would not be visible and possibly 'concealed'.
It never ends.
I think life is too short to ruminate over what society might not deem as being "okay" or "technically legal". I am just going to go live my life. And I'm going to open carry on my bicycle until I get a cpl
Edit: Just so you know, I'm not planning on doing anything I know to be illegal. Just carrying on my bicycle.
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Well we have the okay from the MSP, maybe I could carry a copy of what they wrote with me.
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As stated you could be charged with anything. My opinion is that sitting at a table or against a wall would be pretty hard to get a charge of CCW. Let's take it a bit farther. If you are just standing weak side to someone, is the gun concealed? what if it's dark out, is the gun concealed? I would argue no.
Now should someone without a CPL walk down the street constantly spinning around quickly so the gun is always in view? Should they never OC at night? Or just on nights with a full moon? Where does it end?
Easily done all you need is roller skates and a dog or 2.:banana: Also having a funny hat couldn't hurt at all!
And if the Barber who owns the place said it's okay to carry on his property then I would think there wouldn't be an issue.
Keep in mind the MSP opinion has no weight in law. It is only "binding" with the MSP staff. Other departments are free to have different policies and opinions.
You or the Barber can conceal carry on YOUR/THEIR OWN property!
But You Nor your Barber may give permission for another to conceal carry on your/their property!
I can conceal carry on my property, but
the law does not recognize my permission for YOU to conceal carry on my property.
You would expect that my permission to you would be binding, but the law could make the case against it!
If one relied upon the writings of the MSP, and by doing so you were induced to commit some act which could be determined to be illegal, one could aver the defense of "equitable estoppel". So, although not truly a "precedent" upon which someone can rely with no worry of being issued a citation, the MSP legal update could be used to successfully defend charges for doing as the MSP Legal Update instructed. It all depends...
But this wasn't a legal update, it was an email from one officer. While any and all of these things can be persuasive in a court case, they are not binding.