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    Man ordered to surrender guns after blogging about religion?

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=349713

    An Arizona man has filed a federal lawsuit against some of the state's top judges, claiming they're taking away his freedom of speech and right to own firearms, all because someone didn't like what he wrote on his blog.

    "You can't suspend someone's constitutional rights [for blogging]," said Mike Palmer, who is bringing forth the legal action. "Everybody in America blogs or Twitters, so it's a First and Second Amendment issue."

    The scenario started when Palmer, a 55-year-old Christian missionary from Phoenix, was online discussing "spiritual death" often referred to in the Bible.


    But, according to the suit, a woman from Prescott, Ariz., Melody Thomas-Morgan, complained to authorities that Palmer was threatening her with "death," keeping that word in quotes in her legal filings.

    Palmer explains, "It is true that the blog, 'That Woman Jezebel,' talks about spiritual life and spiritual death. ... Spiritual 'death' as in 'The wages of sin is death.' (Romans 6:23) ... It is not true that the blog ever mentions the 'death' of Miss Thomas-Morgan."


    Judge Kenton Jones

    Kenton Jones, superior court judge for Yavapai County, went along with the woman's harassment complaint and ordered Palmer to surrender his guns.

    "The order says that I am not allowed to possess firearms or ammunition, and directs me to turn over any weapons to the Yavapai County Sheriff's Office," Palmer told WND.

    Read more: Man ordered to surrender guns just for blogging! http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=349713#ixzz1ZeWEukor


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    (8) KEEP IT ON-TOPIC: All gun rights discussions not directly related to open carry should take place in the "General Discussions" forum and topics that are not related to gun rights at all should take place in "The Lounge". Please police your own posts before posting them and help keep OCDO strong and focused.
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    Whats with you PD, are you applying for a moderator position within OCDO?

    If you get it, and the last couple days are any indication as to how you will wield this power, then you will do, in that position, tremendous and irreparable harm to this forum.

    As DrTodd already pointed out to you once yesterday, how can you open carry guns without the ability to posses then?

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    Something does not make sense in the story in the OP.

    He's been ordered to surrender his firearms because the judge agreed the woman was harrassed; but, he's been allowed to keep his computer and continue posting to his blog (with his own or another computer)?

    Lets say he did say something "harassing" (whatever that word means). What was he doing? E-mailing her quotes from his blog? Meaning, doesn't she have to go to his blog to find out what he's saying?

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    Im sure you already understand this Citizen, the rules are changing.

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    Apparently his problem is with me, as you might notice he pulled this only on threads I made comments in, and right after my posts in a few cases. Not sure why, but never the less take a look and you can see this pattern.


    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    Whats with you PD, are you applying for a moderator position within OCDO?

    If you get it, and the last couple days are any indication as to how you will wield this power, then you will do, in that position, tremendous and irreparable harm to this forum.

    As DrTodd already pointed out to you once yesterday, how can you open carry guns without the ability to posses then?

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    This is a trend actually where local officials think they can manipulate their local compromised judge into a ruling of these kinds knowing the legal system reluctant to reverse a sitting judge, in one recent case a mans gun rights were like this case, terminated because he called the Mayor a **** in public. Keep watching the media outlets that report these kinds of abuses, like wnd.com and you will see a pattern of local officials and local judges pulling this kind of abuse on gun owners knowing it takes years in the legal system to get your gun rights back, if you can. It's a growing trend.


    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    Something does not make sense in the story in the OP.

    He's been ordered to surrender his firearms because the judge agreed the woman was harrassed; but, he's been allowed to keep his computer and continue posting to his blog (with his own or another computer)?

    Lets say he did say something "harassing" (whatever that word means). What was he doing? E-mailing her quotes from his blog? Meaning, doesn't she have to go to his blog to find out what he's saying?

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    I've noticed the pattern, but he's gotten on this kick in the past, before you started posting here.

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    Uhh, this is the General Discussion forum.
    "For any man who sheds his blood with me this day shall be my brother...And gentlemen now abed shall think themselves accursed, they were not here, and hold their manhoods cheap whilst any speaks who fought with us on Crispin's day." Henry V

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunslinger View Post
    Uhh, this is the General Discussion forum.
    A Mod may have moved it here recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunslinger View Post
    Uhh, this is the General Discussion forum.
    Now it is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    Whats with you PD, are you applying for a moderator position within OCDO?

    If you get it, and the last couple days are any indication as to how you will wield this power, then you will do, in that position, tremendous and irreparable harm to this forum.

    As DrTodd already pointed out to you once yesterday, how can you open carry guns without the ability to posses then?
    You wouldn't want me as a Mod here and I would not ask for it.

    I have the same abilities here as anyone else and will continue to use it to the betterment of OCDO.

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    From what has been posted, I believe that a pants-down ass-spanking is in order for those who wished to take away firearm rights for this person.

    I firmly believe that someone should not lose their Fundamental Right to Self-Defense over accusations such as this. We seem to have let the Government take latitude in trading Liberty for Security in such cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PDinDetroit View Post
    From what has been posted, I believe that a pants-down ass-spanking is in order for those who wished to take away firearm rights for this person.
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    Um. does that mean you approve?
    Don't believe any facts that I say! This is the internet and it is filled with lies and untruth. I invite you to look up for yourself the basic facts that my arguments might be based upon. This way we can have a discussion where logic and hints on where to find information are what is brought to the forum and people look up and verify facts for themselves.

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    And now, Judge Jone's anti-Constitutional ruling restricting the man's first amendment rights is spreading like wildfire across 10,000 blogs throughout the nation and the world.
    The First protects the Second, and the Second protects the First. Together, they protect the rest of our Bill of Rights and our United States Constitution, and help We the People protect ourselves in the spirit of our Declaration of Independence.

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    If they cared about 10,000 blogs this wouldnt be an issue, but they simply do not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    If they cared about 10,000 blogs this wouldnt be an issue, but they simply do not.
    Oh, he might not care (apparently he's too far gone in his lordship to care). The rest of us on our planet who understand the Constitution, however, see him as he is.

    Actually, I enjoy it when people like him out himself. Speeds up the reform process.
    The First protects the Second, and the Second protects the First. Together, they protect the rest of our Bill of Rights and our United States Constitution, and help We the People protect ourselves in the spirit of our Declaration of Independence.

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