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    The point is made: Firearms are legal. That doesn’t mean we need to be obnoxious abou

    IN. A man was escorted out of an IN zoo due to openly carried firearm.


    http://www.idsnews.com/news/story.aspx?id=83247
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    But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. Declaration of Independence July 4, 1776

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    Who helped this guy write the article Helmke?
    "No state shall convert a liberty to a privilege, license it, and charge a fee therefor.- Murdock vs Pennsylvania 319 US 105

    ...If the state converts a right into a privelege, the citizen can ignore the license and fee and engage in the right... with impunity.
    - Shuttleworth vs City of Birmingham, Alabama 317 US 262

    Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no legislation which would abrogate them.
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    Angry Oh Foooooeeeey!

    Quote Originally Posted by NHCGRPR45 View Post
    IN. A man was escorted out of an IN zoo due to openly carried firearm.


    http://www.idsnews.com/news/story.aspx?id=83247
    It never ends, does it? I would love for these people that advocate for PFZ's (a.k.a. Protection Free Zones) to say that on camera to the loved ones of the MILLIONS of victims that have been killed in them over the last 100 years. Anyone who can study history and say that PFZ's {the denial of honest citizens to protect themselves from criminals of all kinds in and out of governments}, work and make society safer is a fool. They do not work period, they are simply another control mechanism. Anyone who states other wise is delusional, or a criminal protecting their best interests in my honest opinion.

    Hey, this guy LOVED PFZ's look how well that worked out:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqDi4_kqIUU
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    “A government that does not trust it’s law-abiding citizens to keep and bear arms is itself unworthy of trust.” James Madison.

    “Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth.” “The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good.” George Washington

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glock9mmOldStyle View Post
    It never ends, does it? I would love for these people that advocate for PFZ's (a.k.a. Protection Free Zones) to say that on camera to the loved ones of the MILLIONS of victims that have been killed in them over the last 100 years. Anyone who can study history and say that PFZ's {the denial of honest citizens to protect themselves from criminals of all kinds in and out of governments}, work and make society safer is a fool. They do not work period, they are simply another control mechanism. Anyone who states other wise is delusional, or a criminal protecting their best interests in my honest opinion.

    Hey, this guy LOVED PFZ's look how well that worked out:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqDi4_kqIUU
    I do love any starwars reference!
    But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. Declaration of Independence July 4, 1776

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    Smile Come On!

    How else are you going to O.C. at the zoo but plain veiw. People or Security react like the O.C. person is Brandishing his holstered sidearm in hand when it is legally holstered.The answer is let the local city government slash our rights, NO I don't be thinking so. I CCW or open carry when I want, so if I'm abiding by the law you best not harass me or I'll be suing somebody and that's how THEY learn. They think this is just one guy, the real answer is all the O.C. in the area of the zoo should all get together and do a zoo visit with their families and show the public the truth, he's not alone...just my opinion.

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    It's a college paper written by a 19 year old idiot. The grammar was bad and the ideology worse. This sentence says it all.

    "Let the cities each enforce the Second Amendment."

    Enforce the 2A? Really? Brilliant.
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    Wow, what a piece of trash.

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    Thumbs up

    What shadowmun said. Welcome to the forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougwg View Post
    Wow, what a piece of trash.
    Yup, nuff said.
    But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. Declaration of Independence July 4, 1776

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    I wouldn't wipe my a$$ with that article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HKcarrier View Post
    I wouldn't wipe my a$$ with that article.
    I wouldn't wipe your ass with it either....wait, that didn't sound right

    Bronson
    Those who expect to reap the benefits of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it. – Thomas Paine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    I wouldn't wipe your ass with it either....wait, that didn't sound right

    Bronson
    No it sounded right which is why it sounded so not good. Heres a tip write down what you want to say a day then say it!

    And a personal little thing I try to remember is this...(if it felt good saying it, it was probably the wrong thing to say)
    But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. Declaration of Independence July 4, 1776

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    I wouldn't wipe your ass with it either....wait, that didn't sound right

    Bronson

    I'm relieved....


    And after the given convo just took place.. that didn't necessarily sound right either.
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    Can someone send me that article, I need to wipe......
    Last edited by Shadow Bear; 10-08-2011 at 11:28 AM.
    'If the people are not ready for the exercise of the non-violence of the brave, they must be ready for the use of force in self defense. There should be no camouflage.....it must never be secret.' MK Gandhi II-146 (Gandhi on Non-Violence)-- Gandhi supports open carry!

    'There is nothing more demoralizing than the fake non-violence of the weak and impotent.' MK Gandhi II-153 (Gandhi on Non-Violence)

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    Boy, it sure was nice to read such a well written, thoroughly researched and completely unbiased piece of journalism.

















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    "For right now, Magenheimer is allowed to carry firearms into the Masker Park Zoo. Okay, carry it on your hip, but don’t make a big deal about it. That’s the best way to make people more comfortable with gun owners."


    This statement I can agree with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilProGuy View Post
    "For right now, Magenheimer is allowed to carry firearms into the Masker Park Zoo. Okay, carry it on your hip, but don’t make a big deal about it. That’s the best way to make people more comfortable with gun owners."


    This statement I can agree with.
    LOL, The only people that 'made a big deal about it' are security, and the author.
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    The writer (and I use the term loosely) has no future in journalism imho and should find a different trade.
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