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MOCA Name Change
- Thread starter shanebelanger
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Lepine1
Regular Member
Msaa
Mike
Site Co-Founder
I still say MOCCA
Maine Open & Concealed Carry Association.
Keeps basic name - you could keep old and new website link, etc.
Maine Open & Concealed Carry Association.
Keeps basic name - you could keep old and new website link, etc.
Lepine1
Regular Member
Meeting
I suggest a meeting where a discussion and vote can happen. Changing the name of an organization is a big thing.
I suggest a meeting where a discussion and vote can happen. Changing the name of an organization is a big thing.
shanebelanger
Accomplished Advocate
I agree, but getting everyone together is a very difficult task.
jonjon_jon
Regular Member
Shane I understand the need to be politically correct in todays world but I wouldn't avoid firearm for that reason. The NRA isn't about to drop the rifle from it's name and trout unlimited isn't going to remove trout cause someone may not approve of eating fish. We need to stand proud of who we are and what we support. The whole point of the movement is to support firearms and their use by responsible citizens. I see no need to humor the antis to the point where have us on the run before we get out of the gate. I know it's just my opinion and everyone has one.
Respectfully, your friend John
Lepine1
Regular Member
"Maine's Firearms Carry Association"
Bassed on the last post, Maybe "Maine's Firearms Carry Association"
MFCA
Sounds better each time I read it
Bassed on the last post, Maybe "Maine's Firearms Carry Association"
MFCA
Sounds better each time I read it
Lepine1
Regular Member
The Maine Open carry association is about carrying firearms. We shouldn't be trying to attract everyone, that would lead us to other areas and other members that may not support the use or ownership of firearms. We need to name the group with a specific purpose in mind. The right to carry firearms. That will attract the kind of people with the mindset that we want to have as members. That's how the name "Maine's Firearms carry association came to mind. "MFCA"
Being too inclusive i.e "Maine's Association" would be broader but is that what the association is about? No, it's about carrying weapons and the support of this right.
Being too inclusive i.e "Maine's Association" would be broader but is that what the association is about? No, it's about carrying weapons and the support of this right.
Actually, I think it is more about the right to own and utilize them for their design purpose in accordance with the U.S. and Maine constitutions. Whether someone carries or not is less important than their supporting that we all continue to have a choice. Surely the right to self defense is high on the list of priorities.
MOCA somewhat restricts by definition the organization to OCers. As there is power in numbers, what is the benefit in excluding otherwise friends?
Lepine1
Regular Member
Point well taken. How about "Maine's Firearms Owners Rights Associaions" MFORA or "Maine's Firearms Supporters Rights Associaions" MFSRA
Just throwing out ideas..... No need to exclude anyone but we need to be a little specific.
jonjon_jon
Regular Member
Just keep it simple. "Maine firearm Association" The name would include all and we can fine tune it as we develop our mission statement. If we grow we find ourselves to encompass rifles and hunters fine and if we become focused on just the handgun crowd it would also work. In my opinion we don't want a name that we may be looking to change again in just a few years cause the name doesn't fit our organization.
jonjon_jon
Regular Member
This is very good point and all members should take heed of Grapeshots words of wisdom. (At least in this case)
FYI...MOCA Name
Google MOCA = MOntreal Cognitive Assessment (Test) .../ Museum of Contemporary Art .../ Museum of Chinese in America.../ MINNESOTA OVARIAN CANCER ALLIANCE.../ Multimedia over Coax Alliance.../ Minneapolis Off-Road Cycling Advocates. PLUS, I recently heard an advertisement on the radio for Maine Office Cleaning Associates. The point of my search is to note the importance of using a group name that is unique and distinctive from others. That's why I believe it's essential that the name refers to the 2nd Ammendment AND gun owners in general... Maine 2nd Constitutional ??? whatever. Time will tell I guess.
Google MOCA = MOntreal Cognitive Assessment (Test) .../ Museum of Contemporary Art .../ Museum of Chinese in America.../ MINNESOTA OVARIAN CANCER ALLIANCE.../ Multimedia over Coax Alliance.../ Minneapolis Off-Road Cycling Advocates. PLUS, I recently heard an advertisement on the radio for Maine Office Cleaning Associates. The point of my search is to note the importance of using a group name that is unique and distinctive from others. That's why I believe it's essential that the name refers to the 2nd Ammendment AND gun owners in general... Maine 2nd Constitutional ??? whatever. Time will tell I guess.
jonjon_jon
Regular Member
Maines 2 amendment keeps coming up. If you're going to go that route how about Maine 16 amendment which would be actually proper for Maine gun owners.
Section 16. To keep and bear arms. Every citizen has a right to keep and bear arms and this right shall never be questioned.
Section 16. To keep and bear arms. Every citizen has a right to keep and bear arms and this right shall never be questioned.
thacountyhick
Regular Member
Glad u posted this Scott, part of becoming an official not-for-profit group we have to trademark or copyright our name so have to make sure that whatever name we pick isn't allready taken.
2nd ammendment recognition
My reasoning for staying with the "2nd" is National recognition. We, as a group of like minded individuals, that are dealing with an issue that quite honestly is viewed as controversial and in some opinions just a tad OVER THE TOP, must understand the complexity of what is being dealt with. The end result of the "name change" should be one that presents itself as unique, serious, memorable and most importantly Respectable to all from both sides of the fence. Therefore, to keep in thought with Shane, presenting our beliefs as ones that are united in the foundation and formation of this great land of ours, I'll keep the focus on the Constitutional Rights of us FLAG waving Americans and hopefully this subject can be resolved AND closed... soon. 'til next time, PEACE and LOVE to ALL... Scott
My reasoning for staying with the "2nd" is National recognition. We, as a group of like minded individuals, that are dealing with an issue that quite honestly is viewed as controversial and in some opinions just a tad OVER THE TOP, must understand the complexity of what is being dealt with. The end result of the "name change" should be one that presents itself as unique, serious, memorable and most importantly Respectable to all from both sides of the fence. Therefore, to keep in thought with Shane, presenting our beliefs as ones that are united in the foundation and formation of this great land of ours, I'll keep the focus on the Constitutional Rights of us FLAG waving Americans and hopefully this subject can be resolved AND closed... soon. 'til next time, PEACE and LOVE to ALL... Scott
boyscout399
Regular Member
Just so you know, it's not the 16th Amendment in Maine, it's Article 1 Section 16.
jonjon_jon
Regular Member
Thank you for setting the record straight. I still believe we could/should consider the Maine constitution it's relationship with a name change especially if we're looking for something to make people slow down and take notice of the law in this state. I also believe if it was used in some fashion it would honor those that fought to have section 16 wrote into law so many years ago.
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Try this one out...
Well, Lets try this one, GO-ME = Gun Owners of MainE. Looks Good and is Catchy. Google GO-NH... Their site is Quite impressive. Obviously they have the manpower to be dedicated to the site. Hopefully someday "MOCA" will have the forces to be able to get the recognition and commitment to make it a worthy association. Thankfully we have Shane and others backing up the foundation during this time of growth and keeping the focus on what's important.
Well, Lets try this one, GO-ME = Gun Owners of MainE. Looks Good and is Catchy. Google GO-NH... Their site is Quite impressive. Obviously they have the manpower to be dedicated to the site. Hopefully someday "MOCA" will have the forces to be able to get the recognition and commitment to make it a worthy association. Thankfully we have Shane and others backing up the foundation during this time of growth and keeping the focus on what's important.
boyscout399
Regular Member
Wow, I like GO-ME a lot!