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    Stolen Guns

    My neighbor got burglarized and had a bunch of firearms stolen. This is a list that he gave me to spread the word on. They were taken in the predawn hours on 10/17/2011 in Port Orchard, WA.

    Taurus Mod. 2-850021 .38spl snub-nosed revolver, blued, SN. MI78392
    Ruger Vaquero .44mag single action revolver, stainless, SN 55-60033
    Remington 870 Express, 12ga, parkerized, SN W707318M
    Winchester 94 Ranger, .44mag lever rifle, SN 28910
    Traditions Buckhunter, .50 Muzzle loader, SN 00-48-32333
    Ruger LCP, .380 acp, blued, SN 374-84491
    Colt Trooper MkIII, .357mag revolver, blued, SN J85928
    Ruger P94, 9mm pistol, brushed nickel, SN 30830038
    Colt M1911, .45acp, Commercial Model CA1953 (No NS Provided)
    Italian? 36 Navy double action revolver, black, SN x1315
    Remington 1148, 12ga semi-auto shotgun (No NS Provided)
    Norinco MAK-90, 7.62x39, (No NS Provided)
    Stevens Model 44, .22lr, blued (No NS Provided)
    Winchester 91 (cir. 1942), 30-30, blued, (No NS Provided)
    Universal M1 Carbine, 30 Carbine, (No NS Provided)
    Winchester 255, .22lr lever action rifle, (No NS Provided)
    Unknown .22 single shot bolt action rifle

    Spread the word.

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    That's quite a collection. I am assuming that a police report was filed. Do they have any leads? Do you know how he had the guns secured?
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    Yes, a police report was filed, he gave me a copy of the inventory list from the sheriff's office. He has an idea who did it but doesn't have proof. I have footage of them driving in and leaving on my security camera, but the footage is black and white IR from a long way away and it's hard to tell what kind of vehicle it is because it was at 6:10 in the AM. The people who did this knew his schedule and pulled in 10 minutes after he got on the local bus to go to work. I gave him two copies on DVD of my security footage to give to the cops.

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    Does your friend mind telling you what kind of security he had for his guns? as in, what kind of gun safe did he use?
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    No doubt it is someone or ones that he knows or have had to his home.
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    He's pretty sure he knows who it was. As far as his safe it was one of those thin cheap walmart safes. He meant to get it bolted to the floor, but had been moving things around and hadn't got to it yet. They just took the whole safe along with a couple hand guns from his bedroom and his wife's jewelry and the computer from his office where the safe was.

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    Time to start keeping an eye on SeattleGuns.net

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirpuma View Post
    ...it was one of those thin cheap walmart safes...They just took the whole safe...
    Ouch. Security is an investment. If you're going to have that much money throwin into guns you need to drop a few bucks on a safe. $80 at walmart isn't going to cut it. No safe is theif proof, but a safe you have to drill to break into is better than one which you can just walk off with. If anything he just made it easier for them.
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    A friend of mines sisters house was just broken into and her husbands guns were stolen too, near Oak Harbor. There seems to be an increase of crime and gun theft in particular on and around the Island and the Sound in general.

    The police were very casual about it, didn't even dust for finger prints...just like "Oh well, SS DD."

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    To his credit he at least had S/N's recorded. How many people only think to do so after they have a theft occur?

    Mine are all photographed with the S/N's recorded on the photo file. They are also all stored in a heavy safe bolted to concrete.

    With "thumb drives" so inexpensive now, it's not a bad idea to have all your household inventory photographed and filed on one of these (including guns). Then either keep it with you or store it in a location off the premises. That way you will have quick access to data necessary to file a police report or insurance claim without having to dig through a mess of documents. This is especially handy in case of fire.

    For some reason, preparations like this are like carrying an umbrella. If you carry one it rarely rains. If you don't have one, it pours.


    BTW, if anyone comes across any of these firearms, who do they contact? Which Law organization? Phone number????
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    Quote Originally Posted by amlevin View Post
    To his credit he at least had S/N's recorded. How many people only think to do so after they have a theft occur?

    Mine are all photographed with the S/N's recorded on the photo file. They are also all stored in a heavy safe bolted to concrete.

    With "thumb drives" so inexpensive now, it's not a bad idea to have all your household inventory photographed and filed on one of these (including guns). Then either keep it with you or store it in a location off the premises. That way you will have quick access to data necessary to file a police report or insurance claim without having to dig through a mess of documents. This is especially handy in case of fire.

    For some reason, preparations like this are like carrying an umbrella. If you carry one it rarely rains. If you don't have one, it pours.


    BTW, if anyone comes across any of these firearms, who do they contact? Which Law organization? Phone number????
    My Glock has a State Trooper Evidence sticker on it. Can you beat that? LOL.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by amlevin View Post
    With "thumb drives" so inexpensive now, it's not a bad idea to have all your household inventory photographed and filed on one of these (including guns). Then either keep it with you or store it in a location off the premises. That way you will have quick access to data necessary to file a police report or insurance claim without having to dig through a mess of documents. This is especially handy in case of fire.
    hmmm, I've thought about this, but I've never done it. I'm going to do this when I go home today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amlevin View Post
    BTW, if anyone comes across any of these firearms, who do they contact? Which Law organization? Phone number????
    Kitsap County Sheriff's Office. Their number is Phone: (360)337-7101 Fax: (360)337-4923.

    I'm going through all my stuff now too. Getting it all written down. I'll have to get photos and such done too and I have a program for cataloging property with photos and a thumb drive I can store the data files on. I'm realizing just how much stuff I have. LOL
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    You sure they weren't lost in a "tragic boating accident"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by golddigger14s View Post
    You sure they weren't lost in a "tragic boating accident"?
    Quite sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirpuma View Post
    I'm realizing just how much stuff I have. LOL
    It's amazing how many only realize this when it's GONE!

    Sad part is that after it's gone it's tough to convince your Insurance Company you really had it.

    I'm a major advocate of using the modern technology of Digital Camera or if too lazy to "catalog" individually, just walk through the house with a digital camcorder. On both, make sure the date/time stamp feature is turned on. Cuts a lot of "push back" by insurance company adjusters. On that note, going through and cataloging will also give you some idea if you have ENOUGH insurance on all your stuff.
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    That's why I keep my guns with me

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    Quote Originally Posted by TechnoWeenie View Post
    That's why I keep my guns with me
    If you can keep all of your guns with you then you don't have enough guns.
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    With the amount of reported stolen guns, he could have hardly keep them all on him and still be able to walk, sit down etc etc....

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigsd View Post
    If you can keep all of your guns with you then you don't have enough guns.
    +1
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDave View Post
    With the amount of reported stolen guns, he could have hardly keep them all on him and still be able to walk, sit down etc etc....

    Holy hell....
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    And here we thought all along that he kid was overweight because he ate a lot of Fast Food. Take away all the "iron" and he was "slim n trim".
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    I'd like to see them redo that video but have the kid walk around.

    Oh, wait, it would defeat their argument because it would be OBVIOUS that he had a bunch of guns on him, especially with that shotgun making him walk like a pirate with a peg leg.



    Back to the original topic: I certainly hope they recover the stolen firearms and return them to their rightful owner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .45ACPaddy View Post
    I'd like to see them redo that video but have the kid walk around.

    Oh, wait, it would defeat their argument because it would be OBVIOUS that he had a bunch of guns on him, especially with that shotgun making him walk like a pirate with a peg leg.



    Back to the original topic: I certainly hope they recover the stolen firearms and return them to their rightful owner.
    +1 lol
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    I live in kitsap county also and work in Port Orchard. I had someone try and break into my house last month. While I was at work I received a phone call from my alarm company, they said there was a trigger from my back sliding door and asked if I wanted the police dispatched, the police were sent. All of my guns except the one I keep in the night stand are in a 800 LBS safe that is bolted to the floor. A lot of bad thoughts were going through my head on the half hour drive home. The police arrived minuets before I did, the LEO was behind my house when I pulled up, I asked him if they had broken out the glass? He said no, it looks like they tried to get in the back slider, I keep a dowel rod in the track so they only got it open about a half an inch. He said anybody that goes in there with that DOG is crazy. Turns out my 70 lbs pit bull met them at the back door and they decided to go try somewhere else.

    The LEO told me there is allot of daytime burglaries happening in this county and a big dog rely helps. After this incident I took pictures etc of everything in the safe and asked my insurance company how much $10,000 in coverage would cost on a gun writer, $50 a year.

    If I see any of the guns on the list in my travels I will notify the man.

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