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    This is how it should be

    *Congressional Reform Act of 2011*

    1. No Tenure / No Pension.


    A Congressman/woman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay
    when they're out of office.


    2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security.


    All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security
    system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system,
    and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for
    any other purpose.


    3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.


    4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise.
    Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.


    5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the
    same health care system as the American people.


    6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American
    people.


    7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen/women are void
    effective 1/1/12. The American people did not make this contract with
    Congressmen/women.


    Congressmen/women made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in
    Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen
    legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to
    work.


    If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people then it will only take
    three days for most people (in the U.S. ) to receive the message. Don't you
    think it's time?


    THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!


    If you agree with the above, pass it on. If not, just close the window.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comm View Post
    *Congressional Reform Act of 2011*

    1. No Tenure / No Pension.


    A Congressman/woman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay
    when they're out of office.


    2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security.


    All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security
    system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system,
    and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for
    any other purpose.


    3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.


    4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise.
    Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.


    5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the
    same health care system as the American people.


    6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American
    people.


    7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen/women are void
    effective 1/1/12. The American people did not make this contract with
    Congressmen/women.


    Congressmen/women made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in
    Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen
    legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to
    work.


    If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people then it will only take
    three days for most people (in the U.S. ) to receive the message. Don't you
    think it's time?


    THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!


    If you agree with the above, pass it on. If not, just close the window.
    If there were enough members of Congress who would support this idea then it might fly. We can't fix Congress by asking the current wolfpack to change their ways. They must be voted out and replaced with citizen legislators.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cmdr_Haggis View Post
    If there were enough members of Congress who would support this idea then it might fly. We can't fix Congress by asking the current wolfpack to change their ways. They must be voted out and replaced with citizen legislators.
    Agreed. We have got to vote dome new folks in first.

    The only thing I would add to the list would be this.

    No member of Congress may serve more than two terms in their lifetime.

    Term limits are really what we need.
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    Amendment 1

    (a) Congressional members will be limited to $100,000 dollars for campaign budget. Each donation not to exceed $5.00 and every donation must come from separate/individual registered voters.

    (b) Campaign donations accepted from Corporations and/or businesses and/or special interest groups are illegal. Accepting campaign donations from said sources results in immediate disqualification of candidate from election, a $1,000,000 minimum fine, and class X felony arrest with sentencing not to exceed 175 years in prison. The entity that generates the bribe will be subject to immediate and complete dissolution with all board members receiving immediate life sentences in prison, no elligablity for parole, and total forfeiture of all assets.
    "Don't interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties."
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigsd View Post

    Term limits are really what we need.
    No what we need is a more awake and properly educated public to apply their votes in a manner that supports Freedom and America. Term Limits will only create a perpetual 'Lame Duck' session.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HandyHamlet View Post
    Amendment 1

    (a) Congressional members will be limited to $100,000 dollars for campaign budget. Each donation not to exceed $5.00 and every donation must come from separate/individual registered voters.

    (b) Campaign donations accepted from Corporations and/or businesses and/or special interest groups are illegal. Accepting campaign donations from said sources results in immediate disqualification of candidate from election, a $1,000,000 minimum fine, and class X felony arrest with sentencing not to exceed 175 years in prison. The entity that generates the bribe will be subject to immediate and complete dissolution with all board members receiving immediate life sentences in prison, no elligablity for parole, and total forfeiture of all assets.
    Allow me to refer you to another Amendment that actually addresses the sentences you propose:

    Amendment 8 - Cruel and Unusual Punishment
    Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
    Proposed 9/25/1789
    Ratified 12/15/1791

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    Thank you, you are correct. My made up amendments to made up law do not go far enough.

    I therefore wish to amend my amendments and triple the original penalties. And to cover the unusual part I think they should only be allowed to eat armadillo salad and must wear a single rubber boot on their head for the duration of their incarceration.
    "Don't interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties."
    Abraham Lincoln

    "Some time ago, a bunch of lefties defied the law by dancing at the Jefferson Memorial, resulting in their arrests. Last week, a bunch of them pulled the same stunt and - using patented Lefist techniques - provoked the Park Police into having to use force to arrest them."
    Alexcabbie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    No what we need is a more awake and properly educated public to apply their votes in a manner that supports Freedom and America. Term Limits will only create a perpetual 'Lame Duck' session.
    Agreed. There's a lot to be said for continuity. Watching poorly experienced Congressmen try to reinvent the wheel all the time would be unbearably painful.

    The main problem with people electing Congressmen who enact stupid legislation is that they elect Congressmen who promise them the moon, then abuse their office trying to keep their promises.
    The First protects the Second, and the Second protects the First. Together, they protect the rest of our Bill of Rights and our United States Constitution, and help We the People protect ourselves in the spirit of our Declaration of Independence.

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