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    Cool Man Caught on Camera Shooting Bar With AK-47- concealed carriers inside!!

    http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/...132284803.html

    Haha, first part of the video shows a bar patron pullin a glock 19. Thought that was illegal. They should have hid in the back and waited for the police!

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    Yea, that was pretty wild. If the guy had decided to come inside he would have been met with a nice surprise. I do note the article says nothing about the gun clearly visible inside the bar. Good thing no one was hurt.

    A police officer saw him with the gun but he was still able to get away? I thought police officers were superhumans capable of stopping any criminal in his tracks simply by appearing on the scene...
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    Folks in the bar really need to work on the concept of duck and cover. And the guy with his handgun out needs to find a better place to put his booger hook until the barrel comes up and the front sight has been aligned with the target - there is one lucky backside in that bar and it does not belong to the carrier.

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    Tis a shame this mindless miscreant didn't meet up with someone who would shoot back!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigsd View Post
    Yea, that was pretty wild. If the guy had decided to come inside he would have been met with a nice surprise. I do note the article says nothing about the gun clearly visible inside the bar. Good thing no one was hurt.

    A police officer saw him with the gun but he was still able to get away? I thought police officers were superhumans capable of stopping any criminal in his tracks simply by appearing on the scene...
    I'm glad the article doesn't mention it, just keeps showing the clip of the man inside the bar with the gun as though it was completely normal... as it should be.

    And yeah... why didn't the cop stop the gunman from terrorizing a woman, and why the hell didn't she have a gun in her home?

    Craziness all around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisco455 View Post
    http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/...132284803.html

    Haha, first part of the video shows a bar patron pullin a glock 19. Thought that was illegal. They should have hid in the back and waited for the police!

    Nothing illegal about it in PA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilProGuy View Post
    Tis a shame this mindless miscreant didn't meet up with someone who would shoot back!
    While I wish death, illness, or injury upon NO person, some seem to scream to be injured or killed when they do unwise things such as this. In the video it seems that there was at least one with the means to defend himself and those around him yet he elected NOT to fire in return. I wonder if he didn't fire because of not having a clear field of fire do to OTHER bar patrons being between the TWIT asking to be killed or injured and the pistol possessor INSIDE THE BAR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisco455 View Post
    http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/...132284803.html

    Haha, first part of the video shows a bar patron pullin a glock 19. Thought that was illegal. They should have hid in the back and waited for the police!

    Thought the motto was,"when seconds count the police are only minutes away".....

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    edited because sometimes I succeed at being stupid!
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    The local (Milwaukee, WI) news showed this clip over & over, & I caught the carrier in the bar first time through... no mention by the talking heads. Wonder if he'd shot back if they'd say something even neutral, let alone positive about the defender?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MKEgal View Post
    The local (Milwaukee, WI) news showed this clip over & over, & I caught the carrier in the bar first time through... no mention by the talking heads. Wonder if he'd shot back if they'd say something even neutral, let alone positive about the defender?
    nah, they'd twist it into him putting lives at risk "shooting within feet of other patrons." Just like the media took that story on CCW in colleges. Even when a student successfully drew the gun they made it seem like they were putting everyone else at risk, as if that is worse than a killing spree.
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    I'd have rather read headlines of "Man carrying AK-47 fires into bar; stopped by armed citizen; only one injury."

    Still, I hope they catch him soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeSparky View Post
    I wonder if he didn't fire because of not having a clear field of fire do to OTHER bar patrons being between the TWIT asking to be killed or injured and the pistol possessor INSIDE THE BAR.
    You've made some good points. No doubt, there were many considerations the armed patron had to consider during a most distressing time.
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    Maybe they should pass a law that says you can't shoot people in a bar with an automatic weapon.
    That'll fix it.

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    I'm not sure that was an AK-47. Looking at the buttstock made me think AK-74. Every rifle I found in Iraq with a buttstock like that was an AK-74. From what I remember the 74 fires a slightly smaller round than the 47.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigsd View Post
    Yea, that was pretty wild. If the guy had decided to come inside he would have been met with a nice surprise. I do note the article says nothing about the gun clearly visible inside the bar. Good thing no one was hurt. A police officer saw him with the gun but he was still able to get away? I thought police officers were superhumans capable of stopping any criminal in his tracks simply by appearing on the scene...
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    Whille a handgun would never be my first choice against a rifle, beats the heck out of a ball-peen hammer... Glad they didn't make any isssue out of the handgun.

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    PA must be different, cannot carry in bars in Washington State.

    You are all jumping to conclusions based only upon the video as evidence. In actuality the young man with the pistol was that nights designated bodyguard and had been drinking only sarsaparilla with ice. He was standing by in case anyone showed up to shoot the place up.
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    Its a Chinese Ak probably a Norinco or Mak judging by the rust probably a Mak
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    What's really sad... two things... I might be wrong about this...

    As a carrier of a CCW... if you where in that bar and a guy coming up to you with a AK... I think that would be ok to make the first shot.

    Second... the door was probably labeled "Pull".

    If only he could read, he would have been in the bar.

    Maybe if they put a "reward" for him.. maybe he'll turn himself in to get the money?
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    Is this a normal occurrence in Philly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schlitz View Post
    nah, they'd twist it into him putting lives at risk "shooting within feet of other patrons." Just like the media took that story on CCW in colleges. Even when a student successfully drew the gun they made it seem like they were putting everyone else at risk, as if that is worse than a killing spree.
    Oh they would make a huge fuss out of the fact he was in a bar and probably drinking. Hell, they'll report it that he was drunk even if he hadn't touched a drop of alcohol in his life.

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    late response for this article, but I personally think the guy inside with the Glock did the right thing of pulling but not firing it. He probably realized there was not a clear shot or realized it was too risky. Me personally I would have draw too if something of this occur at a bar I was at. But honestly I have yet to carry conceal in a bar. So my opinion doesn't really count.
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    Typical Eagle fan .... what do you expect in Philly?

    That's a MAK 90 ... of variation of one .. I have one chambered in .223 ... nice gun, very accurate much better than standard upper

    I don't think he was trying to shoot anyone.

    Dude from city said "massive damage" hahahaha 30 round clip ...

    Want massive damage ... try my 50 cal rifle ... thats massive damage ... or my 30 cal galtin gun .. even massive-er

    "officer's recovered the gun" yea, he just dropped it and ran. Luckily AAA was able to get his car going when the cops were searching every Dunkin Donut shop for him .. "he might be in this cream filled one ... eat them all boys!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by decklin View Post
    I'm not sure that was an AK-47. Looking at the buttstock made me think AK-74. Every rifle I found in Iraq with a buttstock like that was an AK-74. From what I remember the 74 fires a slightly smaller round than the 47.
    Nope thats a 7.62 alright, one can tell due to taper of the 7.62x39 round, and the diamter of the bullet relative to the over all case dimensions, also the curvature of a 5.45 magazine is differn't than a 7.62 mag.

    Also I didn't see any clips in that video? Particularly any that were made out of bananas?
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