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    Election Day 2011 - Tues 11/8/11 0600-1900

    As most of you are aware there is an election on November 8th, 2011 for both the State House and State Senate. The polls are open from 6am until 7pm.

    We in Virginia are at a crossroads. We have never had a better chance of taking control of the Senate. It is time to send Saslaw to the minority. If we can take the house and Senate we can achieve some BIG 2nd Amendment goals.

    I want to encourage everyone to go vote. Get your friends and family to vote. If you are going to be out of town, vote absentee. It is important and one vote CAN make all the the difference.

    VCDL Members- Let's keep contacting our representatives and candidates and ask them to complete the 2011 VCDL candidate survey. There is no reason to not complete this simple survey. Don't take excuses.

    Consider making a critical donation to the VCDL-PAC. Every penny counts. Click here to donate.

    Just to give folks an idea of how much money is being spent on this election, here is some of my mail from the last three days.

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    "When seconds count between living or dying, the police are only minutes away."

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    Unfortunately Henry Marsh has no opposition.

    But that's not an impediment - I am going to write in "Mickey Mouse" just to let him know he is not desired. It might not make a difference in the outcome but just maybe he will understand the message. Of course my emails to him explaining why I do not feel he represents me will continue unless for some reason Mickey wins.

    stay safe.
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    Because stupidity isn't a race, and everybody can win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    Unfortunately Henry Marsh has no opposition.

    But that's not an impediment - I am going to write in "Mickey Mouse" just to let him know he is not desired. It might not make a difference in the outcome but just maybe he will understand the message. Of course my emails to him explaining why I do not feel he represents me will continue unless for some reason Mickey wins.

    stay safe.
    All you can do in this case is to support candidates in other districts that have a legitimate chance to turn the balance.

    TFred
    Last edited by TFred; 10-24-2011 at 05:42 PM. Reason: Rephrase for clarity.

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    In my district the incumbent George Barker won by less then one percent of the vote last time. He rode on the success of Obama. I think that Miller Baker will win this time around.
    "When seconds count between living or dying, the police are only minutes away."

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    Unfortunately Henry Marsh has no opposition.

    But that's not an impediment - I am going to write in "Mickey Mouse" just to let him know he is not desired. It might not make a difference in the outcome but just maybe he will understand the message. Of course my emails to him explaining why I do not feel he represents me will continue unless for some reason Mickey wins.

    stay safe.
    Marsh hardly knows his name anymore. I doubt he makes it through another full term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    Marsh hardly knows his name anymore. I doubt he makes it through another full term.
    Perhaps you should write in "The Grim Reaper."

    Sad that sometimes old age or bad health offers the best chance at turnover in certain districts.
    Last edited by DrMark; 10-24-2011 at 06:02 PM.

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    Here in the 1st Senate District, Mickey Chohany is running against incumbent John Miller (D). As candidates go, Miller is the better public speaker, but don't be fooled. I think Chohany has a chance to oust Miller, and will make the better Senator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TFred View Post
    All you can do in this case is to support candidates in other districts that have a legitimate chance to turn the balance.

    TFred
    Or step up and run against him yourself....

    Roscoe
    "The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good." - George Washington

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    Preston Brown - Independent

    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    Unfortunately Henry Marsh has no opposition.

    But that's not an impediment - I am going to write in "Mickey Mouse" just to let him know he is not desired. It might not make a difference in the outcome but just maybe he will understand the message. Of course my emails to him explaining why I do not feel he represents me will continue unless for some reason Mickey wins.

    stay safe.
    Preston Brown is running.

    His RKBA views may be unknown, but he couldn't possible be worse than Marsh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repeater View Post
    Preston Brown is running.

    His RKBA views may be unknown, but he couldn't possible be worse than Marsh.
    Thanks. How did I miss that?

    stay safe.

    And then I looked at his website. No, No, a thousand times no! I'd rather hope that Marsh dies in office than put a young man with his politics into office.
    Last edited by skidmark; 10-26-2011 at 12:45 PM.
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    8 more ads, six phone calls, and two visits at the door, all about the election, and all in the last two days. Are you all seeing a similar amount of activity or is it because I live in Fairfax County?
    "When seconds count between living or dying, the police are only minutes away."

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigsd View Post
    8 more ads, six phone calls, and two visits at the door, all about the election, and all in the last two days. Are you all seeing a similar amount of activity or is it because I live in Fairfax County?
    I think it's just you personally. Might be all those responses we sent the Dems using your demographics.

    stay safe.
    "He'll regret it to his dying day....if ever he lives that long."----The Quiet Man

    Because stupidity isn't a race, and everybody can win.

    "No matter how much contempt you have for the media in all this, you don't have enough"
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    I think it's just you personally. Might be all those responses we sent the Dems using your demographics.

    stay safe.
    I knew it!!!!!!!!!!! I am averaging four a day, it's pretty ridiculous. I probably get political ads like you get AARP applications...
    "When seconds count between living or dying, the police are only minutes away."

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    Ratings for county-level candidates?

    Has anyone found a good ratings source for the RKBA leanings of candidates in Virginia? Especially Commonwealth Attorneys and Sheriffs?

    Most of the fluff in the local papers has softball questions that produce answers like, "If elected I will be tough on crime," when what I really need to know are things like "Candidate XYZ enjoys harassing legal gun owners in his spare time..."


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    I haven't seen much of anything especially in the sheriff race. VCDL does candidate surveys but the response rate is not 100%.
    "When seconds count between living or dying, the police are only minutes away."

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    Bloomberg and his antics again...

    Bloomberg is supporting 6 anti-gun VA Democrats with $25K each.

    NYDailyNews http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...ticle-1.968759

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtackDuck View Post
    Bloomberg is supporting 6 anti-gun VA Democrats with $25K each.

    NYDailyNews http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...ticle-1.968759
    Some might call that political carpetbagging.

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    Remember John Chichester?

    Remember John Chichester, that gun-hating RINO? Seems he is endorsing DEMOCRATS for State Senate:

    Republican Chichester endorses Democrats in senate races
    Former state senator John Chichester a powerful Republican who headed the Senate Finance Committee has endorsed a pair of Democratic senate candidates in Northern Virginia.

    On Wednesday, Chichester threw his support behind Democrat Shawn Mitchell, ...

    Last week, Chichester came out for Democratic Sen. Toddy Puller, ...
    Gee, thanks a lot, John.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repeater View Post
    Remember John Chichester, that gun-hating RINO? Seems he is endorsing DEMOCRATS for State Senate:

    Republican Chichester endorses Democrats in senate races

    Gee, thanks a lot, John.
    I thought the Republican Party of Virginia had some kind of rule that to be a Republican you had to support party candidates. Wasn't there some big hoo-hah about Cuccinelli not qualifying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tess View Post
    I thought the Republican Party of Virginia had some kind of rule that to be a Republican you had to support party candidates. Wasn't there some big hoo-hah about Cuccinelli not qualifying?
    If you're talking about the recent hoo-hah Tess, it wasn't big or even a hoo-hah.

    The issue was with his support of Bill Janis for Henrico Commonwealths Attorney. Ken's suspension was only temporary and he should be back in good standing on Wednesday.
    This was a very unusual situation because Bill didn't decide to run until the last minute. If he had made a Republican Bid earlier, he would have gotten it.

    As a side note, when Bill announced his candidacy, he made a number of very pointed remarks about the need for honor, Etc. in a Commonwealths Attorney. He also asked me not to release Surry Side until after the election if I used them to discredit Poindexter.

    I agreed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    If you're talking about the recent hoo-hah Tess, it wasn't big or even a hoo-hah.

    The issue was with his support of Bill Janis for Henrico Commonwealths Attorney. Ken's suspension was only temporary and he should be back in good standing on Wednesday.
    This was a very unusual situation because Bill didn't decide to run until the last minute. If he had made a Republican Bid earlier, he would have gotten it.

    As a side note, when Bill announced his candidacy, he made a number of very pointed remarks about the need for honor, Etc. in a Commonwealths Attorney. He also asked me not to release Surry Side until after the election if I used them to discredit Poindexter.

    I agreed!
    Linwood Cobb, and all the other tools of the 7th District SCC, have only themselves to blame. They love to promote the 'Big Tent' nonsense --until it blows up in their collective faces.

    The 'R' candidate, Matthew P. Geary, is an adulterer. God forbid a Republican adulterer should run for an important office.

    Say, I wonder what Cantor, Cuccinelli, and Janis think of Gingrich?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repeater View Post
    Linwood Cobb, and all the other tools of the 7th District SCC, have only themselves to blame. They love to promote the 'Big Tent' nonsense --until it blows up in their collective faces.

    The 'R' candidate, Matthew P. Geary, is an adulterer. God forbid a Republican adulterer should run for an important office.

    Say, I wonder what Cantor, Cuccinelli, and Janis think of Gingrich?
    That pretty much sums it up Repeater.
    It's a little unsettling though. Despite the fact that Tess doesn't care for Cuccinelli, he's one of the best friends we ever had in the GA and even though many here are still upset over George Mason, he's still plugging the Constitution as it is supposed to be.

    Janis is yet another friend in the GA that we're losing. He went into the CA race for a number of reasons including the pay increase, but he also entered it on moral grounds because of the questionable behavior of Geary.

    If you read in between the lines of his campaign speeches, he says just that.

    I really wish a 3rd party with enough money could recruit he GOOD Republicans and then we could get away from Cobb's folly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2a4all View Post
    Here in the 1st Senate District, Mickey Chohany is running against incumbent John Miller (D). As candidates go, Miller is the better public speaker, but don't be fooled. I think Chohany has a chance to oust Miller, and will make the better Senator.
    I was annoyed by Chohany not filling out the VCDL survey. I called his campaign office today and it sounded like they felt it unnecessary since he has an A rating from the NRA. I would have hoped he would find the largest VA gun rights organization important enough to respond to, but apparently not.

    No one at the Yancy office answered the phone today so I could ask why he didn't complete the VCDL survey. Hopefully they return my call tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpg9999 View Post
    I was annoyed by Chohany not filling out the VCDL survey. I called his campaign office today and it sounded like they felt it unnecessary since he has an A rating from the NRA. I would have hoped he would find the largest VA gun rights organization important enough to respond to, but apparently not.

    No one at the Yancy office answered the phone today so I could ask why he didn't complete the VCDL survey. Hopefully they return my call tomorrow.
    Here's the thing about politicians: It's better for more people to choose them by a small margin than for less people to choose them by a lot.

    I'm not saying that the VCDL surveys are bad, they most certainly do have their place. But when a candidate knows they have the support of that portion of the constituency, there very much does reach a point of diminishing returns if they keep pounding on single issues.

    Again, don't take me wrong, VCDL is vitally important. It isn't in a position to win all the elections on its own.

    This is the world of politics.

    TFred

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFred View Post
    Here's the thing about politicians: It's better for more people to choose them by a small margin than for less people to choose them by a lot.

    I'm not saying that the VCDL surveys are bad, they most certainly do have their place. But when a candidate knows they have the support of that portion of the constituency, there very much does reach a point of diminishing returns if they keep pounding on single issues.

    Again, don't take me wrong, VCDL is vitally important. It isn't in a position to win all the elections on its own.

    This is the world of politics.

    TFred
    That's true to a degree TFred, but the smart one's know that VCDL really wields the power in Va. The members are a lot more active than NRA people. That's one of the few beneficial things that came out of the Kilgore fiasco.

    If it's a tight race the NRA won't save you unless you have VCDL support.

    The NRA's policy of supporting the incumbent without a clear reason not to, has made many of their members ignore their recommendations.

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