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    When will Illinois join the rest of America ?

    My sister live down there, hurry up and get Concealed carry passed already


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    Hell, I'd be happy if they just allowed open carry! I might go back and visit family more often then.....meh, probably not.

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    Howdy Folks!
    I have a house in Illinois, and family there too. I really need to go back to Illinois at some point.
    But I appear to be in an enforced exile. Either I can't go there, or do so under conditions I cannot abide:
    i.e. unarmed, defenseless, vulnerable.

    Either I stay away, or knuckle under to the oppressive government of the state of Illinois, and abidcation of my Constitutional right to self defense.

    Guess I'll learn to deal with it eventually... after all... I have 49 other states I can enjoy my 2a rights.

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    Surely, Illinois legislators cannot continue to oppress the good people of Illinois indefinitely.

    I look for a change for the better in the months to come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilProGuy View Post
    SNIP Surely, Illinois legistlators cannot continue to oppress the good people of Illinois indefinitely.
    They can as long as the "good people" continue to elect them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigsd View Post
    They can as long as the "good people" continue to elect them.
    ^^^ +1
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    Quote Originally Posted by M-Taliesin View Post
    Howdy Folks!
    I have a house in Illinois, and family there too. I really need to go back to Illinois at some point.
    But I appear to be in an enforced exile. Either I can't go there, or do so under conditions I cannot abide:
    i.e. unarmed, defenseless, vulnerable.

    Either I stay away, or knuckle under to the oppressive government of the state of Illinois, and abidcation of my Constitutional right to self defense.

    Guess I'll learn to deal with it eventually... after all... I have 49 other states I can enjoy my 2a rights.

    Blessings,
    M-Taliesin
    Really? You have a permit that is accepted by MD, NY and CA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigsd View Post
    They can as long as the "good people" continue to elect them.
    It isn't the " GOOD " people that are electing them!

    Quinn won in only three counties and even if the 2 Southern counties had been even up , he still would have won with only Cook . There are just to many people that want to keep getting their free handouts and or kick backs in that one county.

    Inroads are being made and people are starting to stand up for their rights in the North East part of this state so maybe it won't be to much longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GLOCK21GB View Post
    When will Illinois join the rest of America ?
    When the state can vote like this:



    and not have a democrat win
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    Quote Originally Posted by M-Taliesin View Post
    Howdy Folks!
    I have a house in Illinois, and family there too. I really need to go back to Illinois at some point.
    But I appear to be in an enforced exile. Either I can't go there, or do so under conditions I cannot abide:
    i.e. unarmed, defenseless, vulnerable.

    Either I stay away, or knuckle under to the oppressive government of the state of Illinois, and abidcation of my Constitutional right to self defense.

    Guess I'll learn to deal with it eventually... after all... I have 49 other states I can enjoy my 2a rights.

    Blessings,
    M-Taliesin
    I live in Wisconsin and have learned that the poor crime victims in Illinois received an unwanted 4th of July present: A total ban on capital punishment! I understand why you quoted "unarmed, defenseless, and vulnerable. It truly fits. I myself carry pepper spray and for a while there was even a ban on that. I wonder if Illinois now outlaws even the most basic form of protection.

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    I am mostly a democrat

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkshadow62988 View Post
    When the state can vote like this:



    and not have a democrat win
    Well, I am mostly a democrat but believe in capital punishment if DNA evidence backs it up, and the right to protect yourself in self defense (right to carry). That is the "bone" I have to pick with democrats.

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    Having lived in chicago for 48 years of my life, I have asked jyself this question more times than can be counted.

    The one major reason I believe that backs politician's decisions, has to be one thing......money.

    That crime does pay in the likes of the chicagoland area. Crime keeps the lawyers, the judges all in nice paying jobs. Keeps the jails full, keeps law enforcement, and guards in a job. It's an all around win-win situation for them, at the cost of citizen's quality of life, safety, and their lives.

    With constitutional gun laws in place, their dreams are then shattered. And so is their pocketbooks, their mortgages on their $800K Homes, their BMW's, and their Steak and Champagne Dinners.

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    Embarrased in Illinois

    Born and raised near Chicago I'm absolutely embarrased that Illinois is now the last and ONLY state with no concealed carry law. How can it be that I can carry on my own property but when I leave my driveway I must leave my Second Amendment Rights at home. Gov. Quinn ademently vows to VETO any concealed carry bill. What's it going to take for Illinois to pass a concealed carry law?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gs5150 View Post
    Born and raised near Chicago I'm absolutely embarrased that Illinois is now the last and ONLY state with no concealed carry law. How can it be that I can carry on my own property but when I leave my driveway I must leave my Second Amendment Rights at home. Gov. Quinn ademently vows to VETO any concealed carry bill. What's it going to take for Illinois to pass a concealed carry law?
    Honest, ethical politicians.

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    In other words, don't hold my breath...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gs5150 View Post
    Born and raised near Chicago I'm absolutely embarrased that Illinois is now the last and ONLY state with no concealed carry law. How can it be that I can carry on my own property but when I leave my driveway I must leave my Second Amendment Rights at home. Gov. Quinn ademently vows to VETO any concealed carry bill. What's it going to take for Illinois to pass a concealed carry law?
    The 14th amendment being used to enforce the 2nd amendment against states that attempt to infringe on that right. Put more simply: a miracle.

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    It isn't every state that can say their governor makes their license plates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkshadow62988 View Post
    When the state can vote like this:



    and not have a democrat win
    A nice thought...and map!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayspapa View Post
    It isn't every state that can say their governors makes their license plates.
    Fixed it for you.
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    Yes I left the S off . That's what I like about you guys , always willing to help . LOL Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayspapa View Post
    Yes I left the S off . That's what I like about you guys , always willing to help . LOL Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilProGuy View Post
    Surely, Illinois legislators cannot continue to oppress the good people of Illinois indefinitely.

    I look for a change for the better in the months to come.
    This year the carry bill HB148 was only 6 votes shy of the super majority needed to pass and override a veto from Quinn. Two cases are in the courts against the state for failure to allow the excercise of second amendment rights outside your business or home and property or on anothers with their permission.

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    Quinn MUST be voted out!

    I honestly don't think Illinois will pass a CCL until Quinn is voted out. Obviously the man can't or just refuses to read and abide what's written in the Second Amendment. The other 49 states and the figures they've recorded must be incorrect. Although I did have a blind man tell me it was so plain to see that even he could read and understand it! Sorry I'm not holding back guys, but the frustration of watching an elected official not doing what's in the best interest of the god fearing, law abideing, honest people is so obvious here. Now that Illinois is the last state with no CCL maybe the NRA will concentrate fully and launch an all out campaign to "WRIGHT the WRONG"! Keep the Faith...
    Quote Originally Posted by junglebob View Post
    This year the carry bill HB148 was only 6 votes shy of the super majority needed to pass and override a veto from Quinn. Two cases are in the courts against the state for failure to allow the excercise of second amendment rights outside your business or home and property or on anothers with their permission.

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    Too bad the strict gun laws do not hinder the criminals from carrying concealed.
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