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    Address Changes: Important
    Please ensure that you have notified the Department of Transportation (DOT) of any address change as required by law. The current residential address that you list on your concealed carry application MUST be the same as the one registered with DOT or your application will be denied. You can make address changes with DOT online at: http://www.dot.state.wi.us/drivers/driv ... change.htm

    this is an update on the doj site
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    the fact that they will be accessing your DOT files tells me that they are going to link the carry permit with the drivers license....and Ofc Friendly will be told that you have a permit when he runs your DL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oliverclotheshoff View Post
    Address Changes: Important
    Please ensure that you have notified the Department of Transportation (DOT) of any address change as required by law. The current residential address that you list on your concealed carry application MUST be the same as the one registered with DOT or your application will be denied. You can make address changes with DOT online at: http://www.dot.state.wi.us/drivers/driv ... change.htm

    this is an update on the doj site
    Part of your link to the DOT was cut off. http://www.dot.state.wi.us/drivers/d...ess-change.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrjam2jab View Post
    the fact that they will be accessing your DOT files tells me that they are going to link the carry permit with the drivers license....and Ofc Friendly will be told that you have a permit when he runs your DL.
    No, I think it's just a check to ensure that your application is accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrjam2jab View Post
    the fact that they will be accessing your DOT files tells me that they are going to link the carry permit with the drivers license.
    More that one state's CWL is nearly a duplicate of the DL, varying only in the changed title and the color of the top stripe. Duplicated including the photograph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davegran View Post
    Part of your link to the DOT was cut off. http://www.dot.state.wi.us/drivers/d...ess-change.htm
    thanks for telling me
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    Quote Originally Posted by apjonas View Post
    No, I think it's just a check to ensure that your application is accurate.
    Agree. I don't think they are permitted to the information on the "same system" with DL. I think it is to insure accuracy. The DOJ is also permitted under the law to contract with the DOT to prepare the permits - I assume the permit will be similar to one's DL, absent the lovely picture. Maybe they are actually trying to be efficient and stream line the process of issuing CCW permits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrjam2jab View Post
    the fact that they will be accessing your DOT files tells me that they are going to link the carry permit with the drivers license....and Ofc Friendly will be told that you have a permit when he runs your DL.
    That is what you imagine, but that's not true

    The DOT was contracted because they currently make State IDs, not DL's. The DOJ does not have the equipment to make DL like licencses, and since another state agengy does, they contract with them for the prodcution of the Licencsee. The DOT will not be 'keeping" any DOJ records. If the could not contract with the DOT, then the DOJ would have to purchase the equipment and hire personel to run it. Contracting with the DOT was to save money.

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    Doesn't the law require that a cc permit have a "unique identification number for each licensee"?
    (see pg. 8: 175.60 2m b 6)
    And if they use a number (DL) already in existance, that wouldn't be unique, would it?
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    So, IF you have NO DL then you have no address registered with DOT, correct? How would that affect your acquiring your sought after concealed carry permit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by McNutty View Post
    Agree. I don't think they are permitted to the information on the "same system" with DL. I think it is to insure accuracy. The DOJ is also permitted under the law to contract with the DOT to prepare the permits - I assume the permit will be similar to one's DL, absent the lovely picture. Maybe they are actually trying to be efficient and stream line the process of issuing CCW permits.
    Does that mean, I'll have to take the motorcycle road test again ...so many cones; so little time.

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    Don't think I didn't see that.



    As long as I get to drive... and I pray that is a pencil in his pocket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HandyHamlet View Post
    Don't think I didn't see that.



    As long as I get to drive... and I pray that is a pencil in his pocket.
    That, and watch out for hot cartridges to the beak
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeSparky View Post
    So, IF you have NO DL then you have no address registered with DOT, correct? How would that affect your acquiring your sought after concealed carry permit?
    The application REQUIRES either your drivers license # or state issued ID #, so, neither of those, no permit.

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    My Hunters Safety Cert. has my old fire number on it. Same house but the they changed my address when the updated fire numbers. The DOT, DMV and DOJ has my correct address, but the DNR has my old address for the same house. Will that be a problem?

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    my hunter saftey had my address when i was 12 and i was not going to leave it to chance so i went to the dnr site and updated saved pdf file on pc and printed new cards
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    Quote Originally Posted by oliverclotheshoff View Post
    my hunter saftey had my address when i was 12 and i was not going to leave it to chance so i went to the dnr site and updated saved pdf file on pc and printed new cards
    Do you have a link? I could not find where I could change address.

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    http://dnr.wi.gov/org/es/enforcement/safety/duplic.htm
    here it will give you the cahnce to change info then pay save and print
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    Quote Originally Posted by oliverclotheshoff View Post
    http://dnr.wi.gov/org/es/enforcement/safety/duplic.htm
    here it will give you the cahnce to change info then pay save and print
    Thanks

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    I didn't notice the requirement to have a drivers license or a state ID in the legislation. I have one so no matter.

    I have two hunter safety certificates, both with wrong addresses. On one I was unable to read the certificate number. When I went to the DNR site to print a duplicate I didn't see them listed. So I filled out the "contact us" form that night and explained the situation. I gave them all my current information. I received an email the next day informing me they had combined my two records and the form would be available for me to print the following day for a $3.75 fee. The form has my current address and lists both hunter safely certificates. So I am good to go in just two days time. My hat's off to the DNR on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrjam2jab View Post
    the fact that they will be accessing your DOT files tells me that they are going to link the carry permit with the drivers license....and Ofc Friendly will be told that you have a permit when he runs your DL.
    In Idaho the vehicle plate will tell a LEO the registered owners name and will flag a CWL in that name.

    If I drive the family car it will not flag my CWL because the car is registered to my wife.

    If my wife drives my truck the plate will flag my CWL because the truck is registered in both our names.

    Quote Originally Posted by MKEgal View Post
    Doesn't the law require that a cc permit have a "unique identification number for each licensee"?(see pg. 8: 175.60 2m b 6)
    And if they use a number (DL) already in existance, that wouldn't be unique, would it?
    In Idaho our CWL has a unique County ID Number (you have to apply in the county of residence)
    and your Driver's License # is also printed.

    Of course I do not know how they will do stuff in WI

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