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Gonzalez Guilty on Lesser Charge

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http://www.jsonline.com/newswatch/132744583.html

Oct. 27, 2011 5:24 p.m. | A jury late Thursday found Jesus Gonzalez guilty of first degree reckless homicde and first degree reckless injury in the May 2010 shootings of two unarmed men on the south side.

Gonzalez, 24, who had been free on $100,000 bail since shortly after his arrest, was handcuffed and taken into custody after the verdicts were read.
 

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On the more serious charge, it is a Class B felony.

http://law.justia.com/codes/wisconsin/2011/940/940.02.html

According to this law firm site the penalties are:

For a Class B Felony, the penalty is imprisonment up to 60 years; however, for a repeat offender the term of imprisonment may increase up to 2 years with prior misdemeanor convictions, and up to 6 years with a prior felony conviction.

http://www.vanwagnerwood.com/CM/Custom/felony.asp

First degree reckless injury is a Class D felony

http://law.justia.com/codes/wisconsin/2011/940/940.23.html

According the the same law firm site the penalty is:

For a Class D Felony, the penalty is a fine of up to $100,000, or imprisonment of up to 25 years, or both; however, for a repeat offender, the term of imprisonment may increase up to 2 years with prior misdemeanor convictions, and up to 6 years with a prior felony conviction.


These may be lesser charges but the penalties are quite severe.

EDIT: Here is a link to Wisconsin Code Chapter 939 which confirms what I posted above.

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/939.pdf
 
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I do not KNOW the facts of this case. That being said, here are the facts I do know of the trial.

Jesus did not claim self-defense in court. His lawyer might of implied it but it was never claimed. The judge, of his own accord, used the self-defense jury instructions, over the objections of the prosecution but the defense did not ask for it. I do not know what to read into this.
 

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justice is dead in this country.

Or it may be that justice was done. If someone uses excessive force, causes the death of another and does not have reasonable justification for it, we should all expect them to be held accountable whether that person is a friend, is family or a stranger. If someone caused the death of your friend or relative even if that friend or relative had a past criminal record you would surely demand that it have been justified or the person be held accountable.
 

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Or it may be that justice was done. If someone uses excessive force, causes the death of another and does not have reasonable justification for it, we should all expect them to be held accountable whether that person is a friend, is family or a stranger. If someone caused the death of your friend or relative even if that friend or relative had a past criminal record you would surely demand that it have been justified or the person be held accountable.

Common sense is alive.
 

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Or it may be that justice was done. If someone uses excessive force, causes the death of another and does not have reasonable justification for it, we should all expect them to be held accountable whether that person is a friend, is family or a stranger. If someone caused the death of your friend or relative even if that friend or relative had a past criminal record you would surely demand that it have been justified or the person be held accountable.

Begrudgingly I have to agree..
 

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Where was his testimony? He didn't bother to explain the situation and had no justification for why he fired. Did he have any marks on his body from being assaulted? Why wasn't he lobbying the media with his side of the story? I am guessing that he was probably guilty and justice is served.
 

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He took some scum off the street and now gets to live a good portion of his life with scum in jail. The legal system may have worked as it should, but real justice has not been served. That said, it should be a lesson to all that you better have a iron clad case for using deadly force or you and Jesus will be roommates.
 

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He took some scum off the street and now gets to live a good portion of his life with scum in jail. The legal system may have worked as it should, but real justice has not been served. That said, it should be a lesson to all that you better have a iron clad case for using deadly force or you and Jesus will be roommates.

Define scum.
Define justice.
You know little about the man who was killed and the man who is maimed for life.
A minor criminal record does not justify taking their life with no other justifiable cause.
All human life is valuable. There needs to be justification for someone to take the life of another.
This isn't about "iron clad", it is about reasonable belief that your life was in imminent danger.
If there was no imminent danger to his life or even a reasonable belief that one existed then justice was served.
 
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Define scum.
Define justice.
You know little about the man who was killed and the man who is maimed for life.
A minor criminal record does not justify taking their life with no other justifiable cause.
All human life is valuable. There needs to be justification for someone to take the life of another.
This isn't about "iron clad", it is about reasonable belief that your life was in imminent danger.
If there was no imminent danger to his life or even a reasonable belief that one existed then justice was served.

Thing is, you don't know either. You are guessing and giving the "innocent victims" the benefit of doubt. I chose to give Jesus the benefit of doubt. Justice as defined by our legal system is a game, whoever is better at playing the game wins. In this case, the prosecution, with the help of a jury conditioned to believe only cops can shoot people, had the better game. Different defense team, different jury selection process, he might have come out fine. Heck, defense lawyers routinely help pushers and gang bangers walk free. Call that justice?
 

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Thing is, you don't know either. You are guessing and giving the "innocent victims" the benefit of doubt. I chose to give Jesus the benefit of doubt. Justice as defined by our legal system is a game, ....Different defense team, different jury selection process, he might have come out fine. ..
When you kill someone, you must justify it. It does not appear that Jesus was able to justify it. Justice is when the guilty are held accountable. This was not a case of a simple confrontation. Deadly force was used and a man is dead. Another man will likely never walk again and may loose use of his arms some day or even die as a result of his injuries. Jesus was given his day in court to justify his use of deadly force. He was obviously not able to.
Nobody is calling Jesus a bad person. They are saying that he made a mistake and because of the extreme consequences of this mistake he will be held accountable for his actions.
Are you angry because he did not get off on a technicality? Are you saying "If only he would have had the money to escape being held responsible for what he did like some gang-bangers and pushers do?" Are you saying that justice is the guilty going free because they are your friend?
 
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When you kill someone, you must justify it. It does not appear that Jesus was able to justify it. Justice is when the guilty are held accountable. This was not a case of a simple confrontation. Deadly force was used and a man is dead. Another man will likely never walk again and may loose use of his arms some day or even die as a result of his injuries. Jesus was given his day in court to justify his use of deadly force. He was obviously not able to.
Nobody is calling Jesus a bad person. They are saying that he made a mistake and because of the extreme consequences of this mistake he will be held accountable for his actions.
Are you angry because he did not get off on a technicality? Are you saying "If only he would have had the money to escape being held responsible for what he did like some gang-bangers and pushers do?" Are you saying that justice is the guilty going free because they are your friend?

Angry? Nope. Shocked, heck no. The system is broken, has been for more years than you and I have been alive. The decision of 12 hapless fools matters little to me. The prosecution put on a better show and won. If you want to be "fair", lock Jesus and the survivor up. Because you have no idea what really happened and neither did that jury.
 
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