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Seattle gun ban is illegal, Appeals Court rules Read more: http://www.seattlepi.com/

golddigger14s

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I know that when I went to the City of Lacey about their signs in the parks, they almost immediately complied. One look at the RCW by the city attorney, and he was like duh "your right!" Their signs have not been changed yet due to budget issues, but they immediately told the local police dept. to leave us alone. They said they will put up new signs when money and time allow. I know the Parks Dept. director pretty well, so I consider Lacey a done deal.
 

BigDave

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I am a working with Kitsap County parks to get their signs up to date... Was just about to post a thread on it with all the info and emails I have compiled with the parks director...
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk.

I would recommend that you seek out a Commissioner as the Parks Director works for them and this may just avoid repeating yourself later if you do not get resolve with the Parks Department.

Good luck.
 

John Hardin

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Slightly off topic, but I saw this at a King County park a few weeks ago, and had to chuckle. A bit ambiguous, but I think I know what happened...

View attachment 7266

Print up some round stickers with a 1911 not in a circle-slash (perhaps in a green circle) with the words "Perfectly okay - RCW 9.41.290" to stick over the blank sticker. We should do that to all the preempted signs we see. :)
 

MadHatter66

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I would recommend that you seek out a Commissioner as the Parks Director works for them and this may just avoid repeating yourself later if you do not get resolve with the Parks Department.

Good luck.

Actually the ordinance was already repealed here back in 2009... There are some links below to threads from back then... I am just working with parks to change the signs that have been left alone and still say that firearms are not allowed in the parks. Seems as though they want people to keep thinking that firearms are not allowed, even though there is no teeth to the signs claim. Doesn't help that the parks director is from NJ...

http://bit.ly/t9tYp7
http://bit.ly/tclpru
 
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BigDave

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Actually the ordinance was already repealed here back in 2009... There are some links below to threads from back then... I am just working with parks to change the signs that have been left alone and still say that firearms are not allowed in the parks. Seems as though they want people to keep thinking that firearms are not allowed, even though there is no teeth to the signs claim. Doesn't help that the parks director is from NJ...

http://bit.ly/t9tYp7
http://bit.ly/tclpru

Yes, I was aware they had been repealed and it still stands the Commissioners are still on top of their Food Chain.
 

j2l3

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Did you notice that Seattle only partly complied with the court order? Wonder if they could be held in contempt of court?

"No Firearms" is still there in this picture, only the gun slashed through in the circle has been removed.


Did you notice this was in a KING COUNTY park and not Seattle?
 

Lammo

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I'm interested in writing a piece relevant to the cost associated with the hubris of Mayor FiveCent.

Can anyone point me in the right direction with regard to research on this specific case?

Any assistance is greatly appreciated.

~Whitney

The rules on appeal provide for costs to be awarded to the prevailing party. See RAP 14.1 through 14.6 here: http://www.courts.wa.gov/court_rules/?fa=court_rules.list&group=app&set=RAP

The cost bill will be a publicly available document in the court's file.
 

911Boss

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Gone... Nutty as squirrel **** around here
Apparently the NRA won this all by themselves. SAF and CCRKBA are merely "and others".

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=7162

I didn't find anything in that article that was incorrect. Kind of a stretch to suggest the NRA is trying to take all the credit.

The article linked to opens with "...several area gun owners, the NRA and the Second Amendment Foundation..."

The announcement on the SAF site says "The Second Amendment Foundation, National Rifle Association and five local residents..." pretty much the same thing, so I guess by your way of reading the SAF "Apparently won this all by themselves" huh?

Heck, the NRA article didn't even give themselves top billing like the SAF post did. Maybe folks should just enjoy the victory instead of trying to use it to support petty squabbles between competing (complimenting?) pro-gun organizations...
 

KBCraig

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I didn't find anything in that article that was incorrect. Kind of a stretch to suggest the NRA is trying to take all the credit.

The article linked to opens with "...several area gun owners, the NRA and the Second Amendment Foundation..."

"In October 2009, NRA, and others, filed a complaint in the Superior Court of Washington State against the City of Seattle, asking the court to enjoin and declare invalid the then-recently enacted ban."
 

Gray Peterson

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I think it's word savings on the second reference for others. When I first read it I only saw the second one, but then I saw the first one and I'm like "Oh, ok".

If anyone would be offended by the idea of NRA not sharing credit, it would be me as one of the individual gun owner plaintiffs. I'm not because they did not do that in this particular case. I guess they learned their lessons from the Katrina debacle to actually share credit, but they backslid with McDonald.

We got the win. I don't care who says what as long as they don't claim the credit 100 percent their own.
 

gogodawgs

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I think it's word savings on the second reference for others. When I first read it I only saw the second one, but then I saw the first one and I'm like "Oh, ok".

If anyone would be offended by the idea of NRA not sharing credit, it would be me as one of the individual gun owner plaintiffs. I'm not because they did not do that in this particular case. I guess they learned their lessons from the Katrina debacle to actually share credit, but they backslid with McDonald.

We got the win. I don't care who says what as long as they don't claim the credit 100 percent their own.

Thanks Gray for putting yourself out their. Any word on whether Seattle will pursue their last line of appeal?
 
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