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    House votes on reaffirming our Nation's Motto

    http://radio.foxnews.com//toddstarne...er-attack.html

    The bi-partisan resolution not only affirms “In God We Trust” as the national motto, but it also “encourages its display in public buildings and government institutions.”
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    What about jobs,jobs,jobs. What a waste of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilProGuy View Post
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    The bi-partisan resolution not only affirms “In God We Trust” as the national motto, but it also “encourages its display in public buildings and government institutions.”
    "In God We Trust" is NOT our motto. Our mottos are in Latin not English. This effort is silly grandstanding.
    Don't believe any facts that I say! This is the internet and it is filled with lies and untruth. I invite you to look up for yourself the basic facts that my arguments might be based upon. This way we can have a discussion where logic and hints on where to find information are what is brought to the forum and people look up and verify facts for themselves.

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    And you know what? As an agnostic/athiest, I have absolutely no problem with this at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daylen View Post
    "In God We Trust" is NOT our motto. Our mottos are in Latin not English. This effort is silly grandstanding.
    And you would be wrong, President Dwight D Eisenhower signed In God We Trust as our national motto in 1956. US Code, Title 36, section 302 under national motto. http://uscode.house.gov/uscode-cgi/f...20%20%20%20%20

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    Quote Originally Posted by jag06 View Post
    And you would be wrong, President Dwight D Eisenhower signed In God We Trust as our national motto in 1956. US Code, Title 36, section 302 under national motto. http://uscode.house.gov/uscode-cgi/f... god we trust)
    CHAPTER 3 - NATIONAL ANTHEM, MOTTO, FLORAL EMBLEM1A\1\ MARCH, AND


    TREE

    -HEAD-
    Sec. 302. National motto

    -STATUTE-
    "In God we trust" is the national motto.
    -SOURCE-
    (Pub. L. 105-225, Aug. 12, 1998, 112 Stat. 1263; Pub. L. 107-293,
    Sec. 3(a), Nov. 13, 2002, 116 Stat. 2060.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jag06 View Post
    And you would be wrong, President Dwight D Eisenhower signed In God We Trust as our national motto in 1956. US Code, Title 36, section 302 under national motto. http://uscode.house.gov/uscode-cgi/f...20%20%20%20%20
    More meaningless silly activity to "counter" the red threat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilProGuy View Post
    CHAPTER 3 - NATIONAL ANTHEM, MOTTO, FLORAL EMBLEM1A\1\ MARCH, AND


    TREE

    -HEAD-
    Sec. 302. National motto

    -STATUTE-
    "In God we trust" is the national motto.
    -SOURCE-
    (Pub. L. 105-225, Aug. 12, 1998, 112 Stat. 1263; Pub. L. 107-293,
    Sec. 3(a), Nov. 13, 2002, 116 Stat. 2060.)
    Why don't you look in an important place like the Great Seal of the United States? See what it says there. National mottos and things of great importance shouldn't be changed so easily as passing a simple majority vote. I don't think the national motto was truly ever changed because the Great Seal was never changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daylen View Post
    More meaningless silly activity to "counter" the red threat.
    I might have missed something, but what is the red threat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jag06 View Post
    I might have missed something, but what is the red threat?
    Communism.
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    Booooo! I'm with the other guy that said this is grandstanding and a waste of time. This was adopted first in 1956 and NOT at founding. Showed up on coins in 1864 and paper currency in 1957.
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    I thought our motto was "E Pluribus Unum"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeZ07 View Post
    I thought our motto was "E Pluribus Unum"?
    So does Barack Obama.

    He also thinks we have 57 states.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daylen View Post
    Why don't you look in an important place like the Great Seal of the United States? See what it says there. National mottos and things of great importance shouldn't be changed so easily as passing a simple majority vote. I don't think the national motto was truly ever changed because the Great Seal was never changed.
    You have been given a reference in the US Code that says In God We Trust is the national motto of the USA. If you think it is something else, feel free to find a different reference in the US Code.

    Just having some words on a Seal doesn't make that the motto of the USA, after all, there are 2 other phrases on the Great Seal, "Annuit Coeptis" and "Novus Ordo Seclorum". Would you argue that there are 3 national mottos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilProGuy View Post
    So does Barack Obama.

    He also thinks we have 57 states.
    Ouch. That hurt man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilProGuy View Post
    So does Barack Obama.

    He also thinks we have 57 states.
    Lol. Finally a decent post from milproguy.
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    Perhaps it would have been better for them to pass a resolution to create only laws that follow the Constitution's original intent.
    Does anyone here actually believe that the Founders were sitting around in John Adams' tavern UNARMED because they believed a bar should be a gun free zone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeZ07 View Post
    Ouch. That hurt man.
    Sorry, it was not intended to hurt you, personally.

    I should have worded it differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilProGuy View Post
    Sorry, it was not intended to hurt you, personally.

    I should have worded it differently.
    I'm 99% sure he was being sarcastic...
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigsd View Post
    I'm 99% sure he was being sarcastic...
    And you are correct.

    The sarcasm was directed (totally) at the fellow who thinks we have 57 states and whose White House staff doesn't know the difference between Wyoming and Colorado.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilProGuy View Post
    And you are correct.

    The sarcasm was directed at the fellow who thinks we have 57 states and whose White House staff doesn't know the difference between Wyoming and Colorado.
    I meant he was being sarcastic about his feelings being hurt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigsd View Post
    I meant he was being sarcastic about his feeligs being hurt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilProGuy View Post
    So does Barack Obama.

    He also thinks we have 57 states.
    He gets partial credit in the case of the US motto. Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn sometimes. Although he seems to have a far different take on the deeper meaning of our motto than it had by the founders.

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    Although the motto "In God We Trust" may seem inconsequential to some of you, I think it is important. I think the Pledge of Allegiance and prayer in school is important. I grew up in an earlier time when these things were commonly practiced and taken for granted as the normal thing to do. To me they fostered respect and love of country, as well as a feeling of unity with other Americans. Some may call it brain washing, but if it was I see it as something positive. Every country in the world seeks to foster patriotism.

    Then they declared there would be no prayer in schools. Since I do not have children I do not know if that is still the case. Maybe they have a minute of silence or something. I don't believe that anyone should be required to recite a prayer, but don't take that away from those who want to. I have nothing against atheists, I believe that everyone should have freedom of religion or no religion. If IIRC, and if I don't I'm sure someone will correct me, this country was founded by people who had a belief in God and lived by Christian principles. I don't believe they would have had the courage or determination to declare independence from England unless they had faith in a higher power. What an audacious idea! And they won! Many died before they saw that freedom realized. And today we are led by a president (I refuse to capitilize for Obama!) and others who clearly have no love for this country and do not honor the oaths they took to support and defend the Constitution.

    This country is morally bankrupt, as well as financially bankrupt, and not just in the halls of power. The two are tied together. You cannot do evil or wrong and expect to prosper; neither can a nation. Unless we develop a moral backbone we are not going to survive, economically or in any way that matters. Little things matter, it's how we lose our rights and liberties; a thousand small cuts and we bleed to death.
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