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    Let no disaster go unexploited...E Rahm

    I think this tragidy may have an opportuity attached:

    http://news.yahoo.com/man-held-calif...194404620.html

    Someone in California needs to find out if the person that was killed owned a weapon he could not carry to defend himself.

    I would make an interesting law suit.

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    What a horrific account!

    You just never know nowadays when and where you may find the need to defend your life.
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    Wait a minute...
    I thought California didn't allow assault weapons. How did one of these not make it on the list?

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    In August, police used beanbag rounds to subdue another incoherent man who brandished two knives at a McDonald's inside the same Walmart.
    What was that line about not needing a gun to buy a cheeseburger?

    This is a story that those people i hear say "Why do you need a pistol with you..do you expect something to happen" need to read.
    NO!!! i don't expect something bad to happen..i pray to God nothing happens..if i knew something bad was going to happen i wouldn't be there.
    I sure as heck don't want to be that guy (or worse have it be my wife or daughter) who was beaten to death in a "safe" place like Walmart.

    "When seconds count the police are only minutes away"
    "If I don't have my pistol, I feel sort of naked." -Unosuke Gunfighter in the movie Yojimbo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Lose View Post
    What was that line about not needing a gun to buy a cheeseburger?

    This is a story that those people i hear say "Why do you need a pistol with you..do you expect something to happen" need to read.
    NO!!! i don't expect something bad to happen..i pray to God nothing happens..if i knew something bad was going to happen i wouldn't be there.
    I sure as heck don't want to be that guy (or worse have it be my wife or daughter) who was beaten to death in a "safe" place like Walmart.
    I DO expect something to happen, which is why I prepare for it.

    I expect a fire in my house at some point, so I make sure the smoke detector has a good battery, the extinguisher is up to date, and carry plenty of home insurance. I expect to be in a car wreck, so I wear my seat belt, obey all traffic laws, and carry enough auto and life insurance. I expect a nut to appear at a McDonalds, so I carry a firearm.

    If nothing ever happens to me, good. But it WON'T be because I was not expecting it, nor prepared for it.

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    I am not "expecting" something to happen.
    ex·pect/ikˈspekt/
    Verb:

    1. Regard (something) as likely to happen.
    2. Regard (someone) as likely to do or be something.
    However i am "Prepared" for it.

    pre·pare/priˈpe(ə)r/
    Verb:

    1. Make (something) ready for use or consideration.
    "If I don't have my pistol, I feel sort of naked." -Unosuke Gunfighter in the movie Yojimbo

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    The natural reaction of a hand wringing nanny like Portantino would be to draft legislation to keep sporting equipment under lock and key so this terrible crime would never happen again. That is, until someone was killed in the Wal*Mart kitchen department with a spoon.

    This story is more reason to carry a handgun LUCC if you cannot get a license to carry. While you might not have a chance to use it to protect yourself, you might be prepared to intervene on behalf of someone who has no chance if the situation should demand action.
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    This one hits very close to home for me. Dave-O was a long time member and participate in local off-road racing. I would see Dave out at many races through the years. I've talked with him about our beloved golden retrievers. I wish he or someone else was able to be prepared to defend against this senseless killing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConditionThree View Post
    While you might not have a chance to use it to protect yourself, you might be prepared to intervene on behalf of someone who has no chance if the situation should demand action.
    Interesting thought but I think most people who carry in California are probably not likely to jump in a situation like that where the attacker is not wielding a firearm (regardless of LUCC or political buddies with the local sheriff).
    The law and political environment in CA would make the case that if you shot the crazed baseball bat attacker and killed him before the initial victim died that YOU would be the one using excessive force and you might end up in jail, and for sure have a heap of legal bills. Ironically, you'd probably be in even WORSE shape if you shot the attacker and DID NOT kill them due to impending civil suits.

    I bet if someone else had a gun there they would get themselves and their immediate loved ones out of there immediately before intervening where the risk to them and their family would be far greater.

    Not trying to diminish the value of this person's life, but sometimes the sheeple are thinned from the herd and there's not a thing you can do. Best to always stay armed for yourself and your immediate family. In a free society when you go out you assume the risk of these type of things happening, in Free America you have the opportunity to at least take preventative measures and carry defensive tools to protect yourself from these things.

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    I wonder if that stinking killer, was one of the 450 felons who was just let out of prison.
    There's 46,000 who must be let out here in Kalifornia, with in the next 2 years.
    I think its really sad, this old guy got killed by a maniac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hgreen View Post
    Interesting thought but I think most people who carry in California are probably not likely to jump in a situation like that where the attacker is not wielding a firearm (regardless of LUCC or political buddies with the local sheriff).
    The law and political environment in CA would make the case that if you shot the crazed baseball bat attacker and killed him before the initial victim died that YOU would be the one using excessive force and you might end up in jail, and for sure have a heap of legal bills. Ironically, you'd probably be in even WORSE shape if you shot the attacker and DID NOT kill them due to impending civil suits.

    I bet if someone else had a gun there they would get themselves and their immediate loved ones out of there immediately before intervening where the risk to them and their family would be far greater.

    Not trying to diminish the value of this person's life, but sometimes the sheeple are thinned from the herd and there's not a thing you can do. Best to always stay armed for yourself and your immediate family. In a free society when you go out you assume the risk of these type of things happening, in Free America you have the opportunity to at least take preventative measures and carry defensive tools to protect yourself from these things.
    What in my prior posts or past behavior would indicate that I am like 'most people"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Lose View Post
    ... "Why do you need a pistol with you..do you expect something to happen"...
    I say: "No, Ma'am. If I expected something bad to happen, I'd have brought my shotgun."

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