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    Uniformed Miami PD arrested at gun point for speeding(120MPH) in patrol car

    http://jalopnik.com/5856128/cops-in-...r-traffic-stop

    Miami Officer Fausto Lopez was pulled over in his squad car for driving 120 MPH en route to an off-duty job. Florida Highway Patrol (FHP) Trooper Donna Jane Watts pulled him over, gun drawn, and put him in handcuffs.
    Snippet taken out of context for context of thread title. The article is actually about growing tensions between MPD and Florida Highway Patrol.

    A war is brewing in South Florida, but don't look to the police to protect you. They're the ones who are fighting. Members of the Miami-Dade Police Department aren't taking kindly to having one of their own arrested at gunpoint by a State Trooper and now the threats and insults are flying.
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    Funny......and not funny.....
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    I think we have this trooper to thank for outing how small minded, petty and vindictive the M-D police are.

    Bad haircut? Not gonna back her up? Quasi-BOLO out on her? The guy got off light, btw. You or I would have gone to jail.

    First, if she had not stopped him and merely followed and he had an accident involving deaths or serious injury, she would be under fire for not doing anything.

    Second, the M-DPD has done this before (speeding excessively) but not caught.

    Third, she drew her gun because, guess what, the perp was ARMED.

    So good for her. Hope she gets a medal. In fact they should decorate her for heroic action in the face of potential great personal harm. I don't know if I'd have had the cojones to stop a LEO.
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    +1 to the trooper

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    Kudos to the trooper for removing a dangerous threat to the health and well-being of everyone on that stretch of the highway that day.
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    Good for the Trooper. A pos finds his badge doesn't mean he's above the law. The ******* cops criticizing her are scumbags and poster children for the Stormtrooper vermin that wear badges and think they are our rulers. I hope the dirtbag gets the book thrown at him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunslinger View Post
    Good for the Trooper. A pos finds his badge doesn't mean he's above the law. The ******* cops criticizing her are scumbags and poster children for the Stormtrooper vermin that wear badges and think they are our rulers. I hope the dirtbag gets the book thrown at him.
    Could be he was just blowing the carbon out-------right?? I have seen troopers do this late at night on the turnpike, 150 mph----what?

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    Ladies and gentlemen, we have our proof that LEOs ARE above the law.

    Officer Lopez is still on active duty, which means he is out writing traffic tickets to people like me and you for going 10mph over the speed limit and when he gets off his shift, he uses YOUR tax payer funded police cruiser to drive over 120 MPH to his off duty matters, weaving out of traffic putting our families in danger.
    “The claim and exercise of a constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schlitz View Post
    Ladies and gentlemen, we have our proof that LEOs ARE above the law.

    Officer Lopez is still on active duty, which means he is out writing traffic tickets to people like me and you for going 10mph over the speed limit and when he gets off his shift, he uses YOUR tax payer funded police cruiser to drive over 120 MPH to his off duty matters, weaving out of traffic putting our families in danger.
    Anyone know the laws for reckless driving in Florida? At what point does it become an arrestable offense?

    7 min chase, isn't that evasion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigsd View Post

    7 min chase, isn't that evasion?
    You would think, but he is above the laws that apply to you and I.
    “The claim and exercise of a constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime.”
    [Miller vs. U.S., 230 F. Supp. 486, 489 (1956)]
    “There can be no sanction or penalty imposed upon one because of his exercise of constitutional rights.”
    [Sherar vs. Cullen, 481 F2d. 946 (1973)]

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    Wait, cops wouldn't do that...

    2006: http://www.8newsnow.com/story/734818...edirected=true

    They couldn't hide this story, but they sure didn't talk about it very much when it happened. How can I find out if this guy is still in prison for his 12-year sentence? That would be interesting.
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    you don't respect me sir, you don't respect these people out here...
    qft
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    Wait, cops wouldn't do that...

    2006: http://www.8newsnow.com/story/734818...edirected=true

    They couldn't hide this story, but they sure didn't talk about it very much when it happened. How can I find out if this guy is still in prison for his 12-year sentence? That would be interesting.
    He's out.

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    Apparently it's a case of the pot calling the kettle black:

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/mh-troopergate-folo-1108-20111107,0,4654086.story

    From that story, it would appear that the FHP is just as bad at speeding without having their lights and siren on. Quite frankly, I am a firm believer that any law enforcement officer who is caught exceeding the speed limit in this manner should lose his/her job and be subject to the full weight of the law. There is no excuse for it.

    If there is an emergency, they should, as a minimum, have their lights on and be at a reduced speed (not 120 mph). I will also tell you that with as many drivers as we have talking on cell phones, etc., even the siren and lights are only marginally effective. Not to mention the folks with their megawatt stereos cranked up to the pain threshold (and beyond).

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    now that right there is a good trooper!. nice to see a cop DOING THEIR JOB. for once...........this lopez moron should be fired and MD should recant and shut up. their officer was in the wrong. clear as day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SFCRetired View Post
    Apparently it's a case of the pot calling the kettle black:

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/mh-troopergate-folo-1108-20111107,0,4654086.story

    From that story, it would appear that the FHP is just as bad at speeding without having their lights and siren on. Quite frankly, I am a firm believer that any law enforcement officer who is caught exceeding the speed limit in this manner should lose his/her job and be subject to the full weight of the law. There is no excuse for it.

    If there is an emergency, they should, as a minimum, have their lights on and be at a reduced speed (not 120 mph). I will also tell you that with as many drivers as we have talking on cell phones, etc., even the siren and lights are only marginally effective. Not to mention the folks with their megawatt stereos cranked up to the pain threshold (and beyond).
    Maybe why he was so surprised. Hey we let you guys speed all the time I thought this was quid pro quo.

    Or it could be this Trooper just doesn't believe in playing those silly games.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    Nice too see a cop actually doing their job. He was doing 120 for no reason and endangered himself and others around him in a tax payer police car. She had all rights to arrest him. She deserves an award.

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    What, no ticket?!

    So the cop who was going 120MPH in his cruiser gets charged and released, and he's still on active duty.

    Why in the name of Great Odin's Raven did they not stick him with a ticket for exceeding the speed-limit? If it were you or me we'd have been arrested, charged, and then ticketed for the speeding offence, which probably would run $300+
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schlitz View Post
    Ladies and gentlemen, we have our proof that LEOs ARE above the law.

    Officer Lopez is still on active duty, which means he is out writing traffic tickets to people like me and you for going 10mph over the speed limit and when he gets off his shift, he uses YOUR tax payer funded police cruiser to drive over 120 MPH to his off duty matters, weaving out of traffic putting our families in danger.

    I think that this is total wrong. He sould not be on active duty anymore i dont know if im just beening to harsh but i think officers like this should have their badge taken. I think that officers need to realise that the badge does not give then the right to do whatever they want. I havent had very much experience with law enforcement but what i have most act like they are better then everyone else just because of the badge. They are no more above the law then i am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brekay View Post
    I think that this is total wrong. He sould not be on active duty anymore i dont know if im just beening to harsh but i think officers like this should have their badge taken. I think that officers need to realise that the badge does not give then the right to do whatever they want. I havent had very much experience with law enforcement but what i have most act like they are better then everyone else just because of the badge. They are no more above the law then i am.
    Using your post as a jumping off point not meaning to criticize, but in many ways they have become above the law. Law in this country was meant to restrict our rulers and their enforcers. Yet Police often, get a pass on carrying guns where they want, even off duty, have little fear of prosecution, and often have rules created by state legislation giving them extra immunity.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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