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    SB228 on it's way to the Governor's desk

    I was going to let someone else post first about this but I don't see that being done.

    SB228 passed the Assembly yesterday, rather early in the session, and is now on the way to the Governor's desk, to allow uncased long guns in/on vehicles and loaded long guns in/on vehicles while they are stationary. https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2011/proposals/sb228

    IMPORTANT NOTICE: GFSZ still applies so long guns would still need to be unloaded and encased in a GFSZ.
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    That's great news!

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    Nice! It will be nice to have an AR mounted in the trunk.
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    I thought this was only about stationary vehicles but if my reading is correct, after this is signed we may now transport an UNLOADED rifle in our vehicles without it being encased. Is that right? If so, that's excellent. I hate having extra cases with me all the time for deer hunting just so I can transport drivers back and forth. I realize they still need to be cased (besides pistols with a permit) in GFSZ.
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    http://www.fleetsafety.com/Police-Gu...by-Progard-190

    I think I will mount both Shotgun
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    Quote Originally Posted by protias View Post
    Nice! It will be nice to have an AR mounted in the trunk.
    be careful someone might mistake you car for a cop car if they see it lol


    hurry up and sign it gov

    it becomes effective day after publication

    the christmas presents just keep coming
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    soon to have a castle doctirne
    whats next???????
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    Quote Originally Posted by protias View Post
    Nice! It will be nice to have an AR mounted in the trunk.
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverclotheshoff View Post
    be careful someone might mistake you car for a cop car if they see it lol
    No, you only get mistaken for a cop if you leave it unattended on the trunk of a car.




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    that almost as bad as a cop accidently discharging his carry weapon with all theeir trainging and all (sarcasm)
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    Like Brass pointed out, GFSZ still applies so long guns would still need to be unloaded and encased in a GFSZ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BROKENSPROKET View Post
    I was going to let someone else post first about this but I don't see that being done.
    I posted it over at AR15.com this morning. I'm for sure getting a lockable AR mount to go in between my front seats!



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    Quote Originally Posted by BROKENSPROKET View Post
    Like Brass pointed out, GFSZ still applies so long guns would still need to be unloaded and encased in a GFSZ.
    Or LOCKED in a rack.


    So unloaded in a moving or stationary auto = good

    Loaded on or against but not in a stationary vehicle running or not = good

    Set on a stationary auto running or moving unloaded (tie it down..lol) = good

    Set on a stationary vehicle running or not loaded = good

    Traveling through or you are in a GFSZ = must be unloaded and encased OR locked in a rack.

    Hopefully I got that all right!





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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason in WI View Post
    Or LOCKED in a rack.


    So unloaded in a moving or stationary auto = good

    Loaded in a stationary vehicle running or not = good

    Set on a stationary auto running or moving unloaded (tie it down..lol) = good

    Set on a stationary vehicle running or not loaded = good

    Traveling through or you are in a GFSZ = must be unloaded and encased OR locked in a rack.

    Hopefully I got that all right!





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    Damn it Jason, you beat me by 9 minutes!!! Lol. But, yes locking it in a rack would work for the gfsz. No longer needs to be encased. I bet dodge had somethin to do with this bill. Remember the truck with the gun rack in the side of the truck bed?
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    I read the summary and trying to figure out why locked is ok through the GFSZ, i'm new to legaleze.

    If so, eff yeah, I'm mounting an AR in my trunk.

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    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/922.html

    Federal
    (2) (A) It shall be unlawful for any individual knowingly to possess a firearm that has moved in or that otherwise affects interstate or foreign commerce at a place that the individual knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a school zone.
    (B) Subparagraph (A) does not apply to the possession of a firearm— (i) on private property not part of school grounds;
    (ii) if the individual possessing the firearm is licensed to do so by the State in which the school zone is located or a political subdivision of the State, and the law of the State or political subdivision requires that, before an individual obtains such a license, the law enforcement authorities of the State or political subdivision verify that the individual is qualified under law to receive the license;
    (iii) that is— (I) not loaded; and

    (II) in a locked container, or a locked firearms rack that is on a motor vehicle;
    https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/sta...atutes/948.pdf
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    (2) POSSESSION OF FIREARM IN SCHOOL ZONE. (a) Any individ-
    ual who knowingly possesses a firearm at a place that the individ-
    ual knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is in or on the
    grounds of a school is guilty of a Class I felony. Any individual
    who knowingly possesses a firearm at a place that the individual
    knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is within 1,000 feet of
    the grounds of a school is subject to a Class B forfeiture.
    (b) Paragraph (a) does not apply to the possession of a firearm
    by any of the following:
    1m. A person who possesses the firearm in accordance with
    18 USC 922 (q) (2) (B) (i), (iv), (v), (vi), or (vii).
    1r. Except if the person is in or on the grounds of a school, a
    licensee, as defined in s. 175.60 (1) (d), or an out−of−state
    licensee, as defined in s. 175.60 (1) (g).
    2m. A state−certified commission warden acting in his or her
    official capacity.
    3. That is not loaded and is:
    a. Encased; or
    b. In a locked firearms rack that is on a motor vehicle;
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    Crazy good news. Can't wait to get started on yet another car mount project!

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    I want a truck rack

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    Quote Originally Posted by apierce918 View Post
    I want a truck rack
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    Quote Originally Posted by GLOCK21GB View Post
    http://www.fleetsafety.com/Police-Gu...by-Progard-190

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    941.23 still applies, so make sure it is not "hidden". A rack up against the headliner would be hidden from ordinary view.

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    The Governor signed SB228 into law. He also signed the bill the would bring 'Earn a Buck' to an end.

    Caslte Doctrine and several other bills passed this week will be signed next week after Walker and DOA can review them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interceptor_Knight View Post
    941.23 still applies, so make sure it is not "hidden". A rack up against the headliner would be hidden from ordinary view.
    If you were to write a essay/thesis or whatever on how and why 941.23 needs to be amended, I would had deliver it to every legislator in the Capitol.

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    Walker has signed SB228 into law. He also signed SB75 into law whuich eliminates the earn-a-buck program. Both laws are in effect for this hunting season as they were both ordered published immediatley.

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    941.23 still applies, so make sure it is not "hidden".
    I think this law is going to be the best thing to get 941.23 fixed for good! Wait until they start getting hunters for violations by having rifles in the back seat or on the passenger floor. Even if most cops let it slide you know there's going to be some obnoxious hunters that are going to get every ticket the officer can come up with.

    Plus now we can get the fudds to help us push to fix 941.23! Either way it's a win........ Now I need to get back to researching gun racks .

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    Walker has proven to be a friend to both gun owners and hunters yet there are possibly as many people on this form that dislike him as like him, probably fuled by his radical approach to state financial issues. As a side issue to this thread the following web page is a running tally of the effect of his approaches to the state financial condition. http://reforms.wi.gov/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Nemo View Post
    Walker has proven to be a friend to both gun owners and hunters yet there are possibly as many people on this form that dislike him as like him, probably fuled by his radical approach to state financial issues. As a side issue to this thread the following web page is a running tally of the effect of his approaches to the state financial condition. http://reforms.wi.gov/
    I support Walker on the fiscal matters, my beef is with him caving to the Fitzgerald Bros and training lobby on SB93.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interceptor_Knight View Post
    941.23 still applies, so make sure it is not "hidden". A rack up against the headliner would be hidden from ordinary view.
    Got it..ok. then I guess it's a dual lockable floor mount, between the seats ? I love projects but it will have to wait until spring...
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