View Poll Results: What's your opinion of West Hollywood's ban on the sale of fur within city limits?

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  • I think it's great! No one should be allowed to wear the skin and hair of an innocent animal.

    2 6.90%
  • I have mixed feelings about it. Wearing fur is ok, but the city government should govern.

    2 6.90%
  • It infringes on the rights of the store owners to earn a living by selling a common item.

    8 27.59%
  • Does this apply to the $500 - $2000 leather shoes by Choo, Cavalli, Ferragamo, and others?

    6 20.69%
  • I believe the ban is ridiculous. The fur industry harms no person.

    14 48.28%
  • I believe it's un-Constitutional and should be elevated in the courts.

    12 41.38%
  • The decision should be left up to the Capital markets.

    11 37.93%
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Thread: West Hollywood Fur Ban - What's Your Opinion?

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    West Hollywood Fur Ban - What's Your Opinion?

    Article: "Putting animal rights over fashion imperatives and its own vibrant shopping scene, West Hollywood's leaders have given final approval to a first-in-the-nation ban on the sale of fur clothing within city limits."

    Please note it's not a ban on the wearing of fur; just on its sale. What's your opinion of this ban?
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    I think they should only allow selling if they're able to verify the furs source and make sure they aren't; over harvesting wild, wasting the rest of the body, or torturing them.
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    Why fur and not leather? Easier to pick on old ladies than bikers.

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    I don't agree with it and I want to know what gives them the authority to ban it, but so long as they are obeying all Constititional rules then ultimately it doesn't matter what I think as they are legally governing theirselves. Now if they don't have the legal authority to ban the sale of fur then it should be fought.

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    Fur? It's a byproduct of killing/eating meat. Wear it or throw it away.

    Fur? It's a byproduct of killing/eating meat. Wear it or throw it away.

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    West Hollywood, huh? There was a California governor who once hit the nail right on the head by this statement, "California has an ideal climate for growing fruits and nuts."

    Food for thought; Maybe we should give California back to Mexico. Can you think of a better revenge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Heckler Koch View Post
    Fur? It's a byproduct of killing/eating meat. Wear it or throw it away.
    You eat fox? or chinchilla? beaver? Very few furbearers are actually ate.

    You can make that argument for leather but it don't particularly apply here.

    I don't wear fur, ever (not because I find it wrong), but this is the government overstepping its bounds.

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    I also eat these and spin their fur and tan their hides:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daylen View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by 09jisaac View Post
    You eat fox? or chinchilla? beaver?
    Well.....one of those would take this thread onto a whole new track and ....... cant picture me wearing that fur though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 09jisaac View Post
    You eat fox? or chinchilla? beaver? Very few furbearers are actually ate.

    You can make that argument for leather but it don't particularly apply here.

    I don't wear fur, ever (not because I find it wrong), but this is the government overstepping its bounds.
    I eat beaver all the time. Oh wait.... SVG is right.

    Anyway I think we should ban west hollywood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by okboomer View Post
    I also eat these and spin their fur and tan their hides:

    I would love to learn how to do that. I have never seen a rabbit with fur that thick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 09jisaac View Post
    You eat fox? or chinchilla? beaver? Very few furbearers are actually ate.

    You can make that argument for leather but it don't particularly apply here.

    I don't wear fur, ever (not because I find it wrong), but this is the government overstepping its bounds.
    Not yet, but I hope to eat them one day.
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    Just for the fun of it I Googled the city council's pictures. Leather belts and shoes, one playing with a (leather) football. I'm sure several have nice leather seats in their cars.

    Anthropomorphic images of Disney-esque furbearers makes the hypocrisy so much easier.

    I think they should also outlaw smog-producing vehicles, all poisons, non-purebred dogs, and poor people and then triple taxes to install rainbow machines at every school - for the children.

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    Could they at least make an exception for nutria fur? They're invasive nuisance animals and they make quite a mess down here in Louisiana. We sick our SWAT teams on them.

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    The ban is absolutely ridiculous...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 09jisaac View Post
    You eat fox? or chinchilla? beaver? Very few furbearers are actually ate.

    You can make that argument for leather but it don't particularly apply here.

    I don't wear fur, ever (not because I find it wrong), but this is the government overstepping its bounds.
    As it is the local government and not the federal government, please explain how they are overstepping. I'm 100% against the ban, but I am curious as to what makes it illegal for a local government to ban this type of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by okboomer View Post
    I also eat these and spin their fur and tan their hides:

    11:53 made me lol...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aknazer View Post
    As it is the local government and not the federal government, please explain how they are overstepping. I'm 100% against the ban, but I am curious as to what makes it illegal for a local government to ban this type of thing.
    A full explanation would take longer than I have patience for but the short short short version is:

    1. if no humans are harmed in the making of something then punishing someone is violating their rights; to pursue happiness.

    2. unless it is authorized in the constitution of the state they have no authority to pass such a law.
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    I wouldn't like to see a german shepard coat or beagle slippers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebobby View Post
    I wouldn't like to see a german shepard coat or beagle slippers.
    lol. Might be a bit odd...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Heckler Koch View Post
    Fur? It's a byproduct of killing/eating meat. Wear it or throw it away.

    You would think that the animals are already being killed for their meat so you should use as much of it as you can. I dont understand why people have a problem with wearing fur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brekay View Post
    You would think that the animals are already being killed for their meat so you should use as much of it as you can. I dont understand why people have a problem with wearing fur.
    Largely the same ones who are against eating meat.
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