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    Nullifying 26350 Through Exemptions

    While I am not going to post the full text of 26350 here, one of the things that came up while AB144 was being considered were the numerous exemptions to the prohibition on carrying unloaded handguns. Portantino seemed to think this make his law to 'close the loophole' pallatable to a wide variety of occupations and circumstances. What he really did was create a ban with 27 loopholes.

    For those without FB, I am reposting one example of how the loopholes might be used to continue to flip the bird at Portantino and the anti-gun sycophants in the California legislature. Street theatre seems to be a perfectly acceptable exemption to the new law. Perhaps someone will parody the chubby cheeked Italian while surrounded by UOC advocates.

    Nullifying 26350 (AB144) through the numerous exemptions might prove to be entertaining. There are so many of them, and worded loosely enough that some of them are a wide open door for the open carry community to just walk right through as if the law had not been enacted. This requires some risk to test, and testing some of them will probably result in an arrest... So the standard warning that I a...m not an attorney and this is not legal advice certainly applies here.

    Aside from the fact this law does not apply outside of city limits the enacted law states:

    26375. Section 26350 does not apply to, or affect, the open
    carrying of an unloaded handgun by an authorized participant in,
    or an authorized employee or agent of a supplier of firearms for,
    a motion picture, television or video production, or entertainment
    event, when the participant lawfully uses the handgun as part of
    that production or event, as part of rehearsing or practicing for
    participation in that production or event, or while the participant
    or authorized employee or agent is at that production or event, or
    rehearsal or practice for that production or event.

    So open carriers are 'authorized participants' that schedule a rehearsal for an 'entertainment event' wherein they roleplay what they will say in the event police contact them for carrying firearms in public. Add video cameras for the purposes of making DVD's for an educational or documentary video production to be sold or given away and you fulfill the requirements of the exemption.

    Using this tactic, I believe the unloaded open carry meets could resume right where they left off, carrying handguns in full view.
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    We just need some organization to sponsor everybody to rehearse things all over California. For example, South Bay Open Carry or some other organization (doesn't even need to be from California even), can setup a webpage where you go, fill out your name as being a participant in a rehearsal for some event, and then they approve your rehearsal and keep a record of it. Then if you get stopped at any time, you have a documented source you can point to as approving your rehearsal. Not too shabby of an idea C3!

    If need be, I could whip up a page that would satisfy the above requirements.

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    Here is another one- Credit due as suggested by puppy8agun at a recent meeting;

    26363. Section 26350 does not apply to, or affect, the open
    carrying of an unloaded handgun as merchandise by a person who
    is engaged in the business of manufacturing, importing,
    wholesaling, repairing, or dealing in firearms and who is licensed
    to engage in that business, or the authorized representative or
    authorized agent of that person, while engaged in the lawful course
    of the business.

    Become a firearms dealer, manufacturer, or gunsmith and carry your 'merchandise' with you during the course of your business. She suggested that one would put a price tag on your handgun and offer it for sale, as per the exception in 26373, but under this exemption you wouldnt need to and wouldnt be limited to private property where you have permission. Might require a business license or other licensing... but you would still be able to carry.
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    I wonder if being a member of "Scene Diego" would suffice.

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    [QUOTE=ConditionThree;1648921] Perhaps someone will parody the chubby cheeked Italian while surrounded by UOC advocates.
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    I can see it now! SBOC proudly presents: "Porkantino In The Park" Bravo!!

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    [QUOTE=Mike Hunt;1653179]
    Quote Originally Posted by ConditionThree View Post
    Perhaps someone will parody the chubby cheeked Italian while surrounded by UOC advocates.
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    I can see it now! SBOC proudly presents: "Porkantino In The Park" Bravo!!
    You mean Responsible Citizens of California.

    Easy to overlook, as their announcement of the merger is pretty recent.
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    Usable Exemptions to PC26350 the analysis of the CGF analysis of AB144

    I spent some time dissecting which of the 116 exemptions could be used as a means to nullify 26350. I have pulled out 12 that seem to allow just about anyone carry a holstered handgun after January 1st. Two of these exemptions pretty much keep us exactly where we are on December 31st, 2011. I will leave it to readers to figure out which of these they are. Bear in mind that my interpretations are based on layman's understanding of the law and that this activity is still legally risky.

    The Calguns analysis can be found here.... http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/res...is-a-faqs.html

    26363. Section 26350 does not apply to, or affect, the open
    carrying of an unloaded handgun as merchandise by a person who
    is engaged in the business of manufacturing, importing,
    wholesaling, repairing, or dealing in firearms and who is licensed
    to engage in that business, or the authorized representative or
    authorized agent of that person, while engaged in the lawful course
    of the business.
    #40 Any person licensed and engaged in the business of manufacturing, importing, wholesaling, repairing, or dealing in firearms carrying the unloaded handgun as merchandise in the lawful course of business.

    While the law stipulates that you would need to be licensed and engaged in the business of manufacturing, importing, wholesaling, repairing or dealing in firearms, it doesn't indicate that you have to turn a profit. In order to meet the criterion, you would need to have a license (since the law does not specify what licence, I think it could be a city business license) and carry your handgun as merchandise offered for sale. To establish this, one might need to apply a price tag- this way you are publicly offering your goods for sale in the course of your business where ever you are.


    26375. Section 26350 does not apply to, or affect, the open
    carrying of an unloaded handgun by an authorized participant in,
    or an authorized employee or agent of a supplier of firearms for,
    a motion picture, television or video production, or entertainment
    event, when the participant lawfully uses the handgun as part of
    that production or event, as part of rehearsing or practicing for
    participation in that production or event, or while the participant
    or authorized employee or agent is at that production or event, or
    rehearsal or practice for that production or event.

    #51 Any authorized participant in a video production when the participant lawfully uses the handgun as a part of that production or even, as a part of rehearsing or practicing for participation in that production or event, or while the participant or authorized employee or agent is at the production or event, or rehearsal or practice for that production or event. (Penal Code 26375)

    If you have a YouTube Channel and you video record your handgun open carry outings, nothing really changes for you. You are a video producer and each event is a new production or a rehearsal. You are video taping your own documentary. Again, there is no obligation for you to make money or sell your video (Though passing out your own DVD's promoting the second amendment would be pretty neat.) It wouldn't hurt to make some cards or information to pass out about your independent video productions.

    #54 Any authorized participant in an entertainment event when the participant lawfully uses the handgun as a part of that production or event, as part of rehearsing or practicing for participation in that production or event, or while the participant or authorized employee or agent is at the production or event, or rehearsal or practice for that production or event. (Penal Code 26375)

    Are there any thespians in the house? By holding an 'entertainment event' you are exempted. Can you juggle? (not your pistols, you goof.) Tell a joke? Sing a song? Recite poetry? Make balloon animals? If you have a talent and schedule a street performance, you are exempted.

    26383. Paragraph (1) of subdivision (a) of Section 26350 does
    not apply to, or affect, the open carrying of an unloaded handgun
    by a person when done within a place of business, a place of
    residence, or on private property, if done with the permission of
    a person who, by virtue of subdivision (a) of Section 25605, may
    carry openly an unloaded handgun within that place of business,
    place of residence, or on that private property owned or lawfully
    possessed by that person.
    #69 Any person openly carrying an unloaded handgun when done within a place of business with the permission of a person who may openly carry within that place of business owned or lawfully possessed by that person pursuant to Penal Code 25605. (Penal Code 26383)

    By holding your events at a local pro-gun business, you can openly carry your handgun with the owners permission. Granted, this isn't the same as going to your corner market for an Icee, but if you meet like many groups do, this can establish a base where others will know where to find you outside of searching the internet.

    #78 Any person openly carrying an unloaded handgun when done on private property with the permission of a person who may openly carry within that private property owned or lawfully possessed by that person pursuant to Penal Code 25605. (Penal Code 26383)

    Yes... private property with permission. Not as much fun as anywhere and anytime.

    26362. Section 26350 does not apply to, or affect, the open
    carrying of an unloaded handgun by any person to the extent that
    person may openly carry a loaded handgun pursuant to Article 4
    (commencing with Section 26000) of Chapter 3.
    26055 Nothing in Section 25850 shall prevent any person from
    having a loaded weapon, if it is otherwise lawful, at the person's
    place of residence, including any temporary residence or campsite.
    #79 Any person having a handgun at the person's place of residence, including temporary residence or campsite. (Penal Code 26362 & 26055)

    So, if you have pitched your tent at occupy whatever street, you have established a temporary campsite. This also has implications if you are traveling in an motor-home. While transporting, you would need to have it locked up. When not traveling, you would be exempted assuming that the RV would be your temporary residence.

    26368. Section 26350 does not apply to, or affect, the open
    carrying of an unloaded handgun by a member of an organization
    chartered by the Congress of the United States or a nonprofit
    mutual or public benefit corporation organized and recognized as
    a nonprofit tax-exempt organization by the Internal Revenue
    Service while on official parade duty or ceremonial occasions of
    that organization or while rehearsing or practicing for official
    parade duty or ceremonial occasions.

    #98 Any member of a nonprofit mutual benefit corporation organized and recognized as a nonprofit tax exempt organization by the Internal Revenue Service while practicing or rehearsing official parade duty of that organization. (Penal Code 26368)

    Enter a parade as a non-profit? Yes, this is an opportunity for gun owners to interact with the general public. As some groups have found, establishing a community benefit softens the rhetoric from anti-gunners and fosters an image that regular people own and carry handguns.

    #100 Any member of a nonprofit mutual benefit corporation organized and recognized as a nonprofit tax exempt organization by the Internal Revenue Service while practicing or rehearsing ceremonial occasions of that organization. (penal Code 26368)

    On January 8, 2011, the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence is holding a candle lighting ceremony and vigil in memory of those who perished as a result of 'gun violence'. A non-profit, could likewise stage a similar ceremony in memory of those victims of crime who could have been saved if only they were armed and instead of burning candles the ceremony would commence with the holstering of pistols and revolvers. And in my view, there isn't anything to prevent such ceremonies and rehearsals from occurring once a week, save perhaps the perception that frequency reduces the impact or seems dismissive of the victims of crime. Perhaps there could be a ceremonial secret handshake. And practice it. Frequently.

    26366. Section 26350 does not apply to, or affect, the open
    carrying of an unloaded handgun by a licensed hunter while
    engaged in hunting or while transporting that handgun when going
    to or returning from that hunting expedition.
    #105 Any licensed hunter while engaged in hunting or while transporting a handgun when going to that hunting expedition. (Penal Code 26366)

    #106 Any licensed hunter while engaged in hunting or while transporting when returning from that hunting expedition. (Penal Code 26366)


    A hunting license can be had for $43.46 from the California Dept of Fish and Game. It's valid from July 1st to June 30th. The only hang up that I can think of is that some municipalities prohibit hunting inside city limits and some regulations prohibit using handguns to take certain game. Check state and local laws to be sure you fit neatly into this exemption. (ETA- After doing some more research on the issue, it seems that what gun you take game with would be irrelevant- as DFG regulations cannot disarm you of a handgun for self defense purposes...)

    26388. Section 26350 does not apply to, or affect, the open
    carrying of an unloaded handgun on publicly owned land, if the
    possession and use of a handgun is specifically permitted by the
    managing agency of the land and the person carrying that handgun
    is in lawful possession of that handgun.
    #108 Any person carrying an unloaded handgun on publicly owned land if the possession and use is specifically permitted by the managing agency of the land and the person carrying the handgun is in lawful possession of the handgun. (Penal Code 26388)

    26389. Section 26350 does not apply to, or affect, the carrying
    of an unloaded handgun if the handgun is carried either in the
    locked trunk of a motor vehicle or in a locked container.
    #109 Any person carrying an unloaded handgun if the handgun is carried either in the locked trunk of a motor vehicle or in a locked container. (Penal Code 26389)

    LUCC – Locked unloaded cased carry is exempt.
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    Bump to the top.
    Pay particular attention to post number seven.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ConditionThree View Post
    Bump to the top.
    Pay particular attention to post number seven.
    Excellent write-up C3

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    Practicing or rehearsing ceremonial occasions of that organization

    This is the key I believe that needs to be developed and utilized. There is no stipulation of place or property, only defining "practicing" and "rehearsal" of "ceremonial occasions".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ca Patriot View Post
    I have a good friend who is a police officer with LACSD and they are ALL chomping at the bit to arrest open carriers now.
    Sounds like your friend and his co-workers are also anxious to be named as defendants just because they have a beef with 1st amendment activities. If it is not that, then it must be because they have not been adequately trained in the new intricasies of lawful unloaded open carry now that the legislature has narrowed the practice into case specific activities and professions which law enforcement will now have to memorize in order to prevent conducting a false arrest.

    Remember, while this is the law that they wanted... The police cannot apply it in any way they wish. The legislature screwed them on that, by poking 116 holes into the solid wall of a prohibition. While your prediction is likely to come true, I would predict that it will come true with some interesting side-effects that your 'friend' at LACSD wasn't anticipating. I would recommend that you forward The Calguns Foundation's analysis of AB144 and urge him to forward it to his departments training deputy. Perhaps they will see the light yet.
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    Also, remind him that a Federal Civil Rights suit that they will lose will come from their pocket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ca Patriot View Post
    Yeah I would love to see any of you guys try to exploit one of these so called exemptions.

    I have a good friend who is a police officer with LACSD and they are ALL chomping at the bit to arrest open carriers now.

    My prediction......come Jan 1, 2012 there will be NOT A SINGLE person open carrying a handgun anywhere in LA, Ventura, Riverside, Orange, San Diego counties...PERIOD !!!

    If someone wants to prove me wrong go ahead and video tape it. You will be arrested, exemptions or not.
    You will be wrong, I will still be OCing in LA County on Jan 1st.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ca Patriot View Post
    Yeah I would love to see any of you guys try to exploit one of these so called exemptions.

    I have a good friend who is a police officer with LACSD and they are ALL chomping at the bit to arrest open carriers now.

    My prediction......come Jan 1, 2012 there will be NOT A SINGLE person open carrying a handgun anywhere in LA, Ventura, Riverside, Orange, San Diego counties...PERIOD !!!

    If someone wants to prove me wrong go ahead and video tape it. You will be arrested, exemptions or not.
    how much do you want to bet me on this?

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    One of the exemptions is for holders of an LTC.

    First question is this: What would be the legal repercussions of a County Sheriff revoking an LTC because someone exercised the exemption?

    With the exemption, I could legally carry one of my firearms loaded and concealed, and one carried UOC.

    Second question is this: Since having an LTC exempts me from 626.9, and having an LTC also exempts me from 26350, would it be legal for me to now UOC in a GFSZ? Unintended consequence?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Decoligny View Post
    One of the exemptions is for holders of an LTC.

    First question is this: What would be the legal repercussions of a County Sheriff revoking an LTC because someone exercised the exemption?

    With the exemption, I could legally carry one of my firearms loaded and concealed, and one carried UOC.

    Second question is this: Since having an LTC exempts me from 626.9, and having an LTC also exempts me from 26350, would it be legal for me to now UOC in a GFSZ? Unintended consequence?
    We may yet find out. ;-) The legal repercussions of a County Sheriff revoking a LTC outside the listed discretion of good cause, good moral character and residency is fodder for a civil rights suit.

    There have been circumstances in the past where an advocate was using those exact exemptions under a license to carry, but not with one handgun concealed and one exposed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ca Patriot View Post
    pullnshoot and mjones :

    okay explain what exemptions you will be taking advantage of ?
    I had the same question, and it was answered for me in another thread:

    http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/res...is-a-faqs.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by KBCraig View Post
    I had the same question, and it was answered for me in another thread:

    http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/res...is-a-faqs.html
    Im sure that Ca_Patriot is seeking specifics as to which exemptions listed will be used in their strategy. I wouldn't be inclined to share such information in advance, based on their position on attempting to work within the law as written.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ConditionThree View Post
    We may yet find out. ;-) The legal repercussions of a County Sheriff revoking a LTC outside the listed discretion of good cause, good moral character and residency is fodder for a civil rights suit.

    There have been circumstances in the past where an advocate was using those exact exemptions under a license to carry, but not with one handgun concealed and one exposed.
    I just figured that having both guns on my LTC it would be tactically superior to be carrying UOCfot 1A purposes while carrying concealed for 2A purposes (fully functional firearm)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ca Patriot View Post
    ...I have a good friend who is a police officer with LACSD and they are ALL chomping at the bit to arrest open carriers now....
    That's because police officers like him are not law enforcement officers. Most police aren't anymore. I'm referring to the description of "law enforcement officer," not the title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Decoligny View Post
    One of the exemptions is for holders of an LTC.

    First question is this: What would be the legal repercussions of a County Sheriff revoking an LTC because someone exercised the exemption?

    With the exemption, I could legally carry one of my firearms loaded and concealed, and one carried UOC.

    Second question is this: Since having an LTC exempts me from 626.9, and having an LTC also exempts me from 26350, would it be legal for me to now UOC in a GFSZ? Unintended consequence?
    Didn't they correct the language (somtime last year?) for the LTC's.... Essentially saying u have to carry concealed?
    Something about "as" licensed and not "if" licensed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by camsoup View Post
    Didn't they correct the language (somtime last year?) for the LTC's.... Essentially saying u have to carry concealed?
    Something about "as" licensed and not "if" licensed?
    (l) This section does not apply to a duly appointed peace officer as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2, a full-time paid peace officer of another state or the federal government who is carrying out official duties while in California, any person summoned by any of these officers to assist in making arrests or preserving the peace while he or she is actually engaged in assisting the officer, a member of the military forces of this state or of the United States who is engaged in the performance of his or her duties, a person holding a valid license to carry the firearm pursuant to Article 3 (commencing with Section 12050) of Chapter 1 of Title 2 of Part 4, or an armored vehicle guard, engaged in the performance of his or her duties, as defined in subdivision (e) of Section 7521 of the Business and Professions Code.

    This section does not apply to...

    ...a person holding a valid license to carry the fiream pursuant to Article 3 (commencing with Section 12050) of Chapter 1 of Title 2 of Part 4,

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    Quote Originally Posted by camsoup View Post
    Didn't they correct the language (somtime last year?) for the LTC's.... Essentially saying u have to carry concealed?
    Something about "as" licensed and not "if" licensed?
    No - that was only the exemption for Loaded carry that got changed. GFSZ and Open Carry still contain blanket exemptions for LTC holders.

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    Exemptions #69 and #72 (PC26383) Permission from Businesses or Property Owners

    Reposted from Facebook - Responsible Citizen's of California

    RCC has requested and obtained permission from a business/private property owner to openly carry their handguns during their regular meetings. Mr McCarthy quotes the code citation in his letter.

    Dear Responsible Citizen of California:

    Go to the Calguns Foundation website to download and read Calguns Foundation's Open Letter and Analysis of Assembly Bill 144 at:
    www.calgunsfoundation.org/downloads. There you will find an analysis that found 116 exemptions for unloaded open carry. One of those exemptions may allow you to open carry at RCC general meetings. RCC is not advising you to open carry at general meetings, but if you choose to do so please review the exemptions listed in the analysis before you do.

    Disclaimer: The following information is not legal advice. It also clear that the accuracy of the legal information is not guaranteed. Members of Responsible Citizens of California and those that attend meetings are advised to seek professional help if they are concerned about a specific legal issue.

    AB144 provides at least 116 exemptions for exposed and unloaded carrying of handguns within the eight (8) restricted areas found on page 2 of the analysis.

    Specifically, AB144 EXEMPTS the open carrying of an unloaded handgun on Private Property.

    Exemption 78 page 12 of 16 states: "Any person openly carrying an unloaded handgun when done on private property with the permission of a person who may open carry within that private property owned or lawfully possessed by that person pursuant to Penal Code Section: 26362 and 26055".

    Sizzler Restaurant Manager in Torrance CA has given his permission to members and attendees of Responsible Citizens of California to open carry unloaded handguns while attending general meetings held at his restaurant on 3rd Tuesdays of every month.

    (Penal Code 26389) - Section 26350 does not apply to, or affect, the carrying of an unloaded handgun if the handgun is carried either in the locked
    trunk of a motor vehicle or in a locked container.

    What to do if I am arrested while lawfully carrying openly and unloaded (handgun) in compliance with AB144?

    1. Remain Calm
    2. Exercise your right to remain silent by (Q) stating that you are exercising your right to remain silent, and then (B) do precisely that.
    3. Call an attorney knowledgeble in firearms law.
    4. If you need assistance in locating a firearms attorney, please visit www.calgunsfoundation.org
    5. If you cannot send an email or access the resources at CGF's Hotline webpage, you should call CGF's Help Hotline at (800) 556-2109 and request firearms attorney contacts for your area.

    Remember: do not provide details of the situation in your communications to anyone other than your attorney.

    Disclaimer: Responsible Citizens of California, its officers and board members are not recommending that you open carry at our general meetings, but if you choose to do so please read the sections addressed in this email before attending a general meeting.

    A copy of the analysis has been provided to each of California's 58 sheriffs offices to ensure tht they are placed on notice of the actual provisions of AB144. thus effectively precluding these agencies from using ignorance as an excuse. In addition ,a copy of the analysis was provided to other law enforcement agencies and associations, including the California State Sheriff's Association, the California Police Chief's Association, and the California District Attorney's Association with a request that they circulate it to their members.
    CFG also offers their assistance in the creation and review of any proposed policies and educational materials regarding AB144 to any law enforcement agency that seeks to properly train their officers and deputies.

    Gene McCarthy
    President
    Responsible Citizens of California
    New to OPEN CARRY in California? Click and read this first...

    NA MALE SUBJ ON FOOT, LS NB 3 AGO HAD A HOLSTERED HANDGUN ON HIS RIGHT HIP. WAS NOT BRANDISHING THE WEAPON, BUT RP FOUND SUSPICIOUS.
    CL SUBJ IN COMPLIANCE WITH LAW


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    dang it, you got fast fingers today, lol

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