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Moooooooooooooooooon eyes!

jpm84092

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Salt Lake City, Utah, USA
The term "casual carry" comes to mind. I often leave the house these fall days wearing an open front zippered sweater. It the wind happens to blow it outward of my body and folks see my holstered Springfield XD-9, big deal - open carry is legal in Utah (and WI).

On my recent (post November 1, 2011) visit to Wisconsin, I did the same thing as a lawfully armed "out-of-state licensee" within the meaning of SB-93 as amended (aka AB-35). WAVE members who monitor this site will note from my signature that I hold permits from PA, AZ, and UT, which are recognized in WI.

Yellow Cat Out -
 

Da Po-lock

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Joined
Jan 21, 2011
Messages
131
Location
Green Bay, WI
I don't get it. Celebrating the fact that you are drawing attention to yourself?

I open carried for years (and since 11/1 IN my truck, boat, Razr and on my ATV) and really never noticed any type of reaction from people who clearly saw me.
Certainly never had anyone dive for cover anyways.
 
M

McX

Guest
i'm just not going to worry about it anymore. i got my card, i do what i do what i did yesterday, the day before. if people see something then lucky them. i dont have to hand out pamphlets anymore, if they ask- i will answer, otherwise it's just business as usual for me. especially since i can float between open and cc. cc now cause the weather is cold, OC when the weather is nice. if i get moon eyes, i just give the eye back of- get over it. they can go home, tell their story, and end it with NOTHING HAPPENED.
 

SourKraut

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Wisconsin
"...a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it the superficial apperance of being right, and raises at first a formadable outcry in defence of custom. But, tumult soon subsides."- from Thomas Paine's Common Sense, 1776

The moon eyes will go away in due time. Normal shall soon be veiwed as normal once again.
 
M

McX

Guest
"...a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it the superficial apperance of being right, and raises at first a formadable outcry in defence of custom. But, tumult soon subsides."- from Thomas Paine's Common Sense, 1776

The moon eyes will go away in due time. Normal shall soon be veiwed as normal once again.

the Truth, thusly spoken!
 
M

McX

Guest
an emerging problem here in my life has forced me to reconsider my carry method of condition 3, i will be meeting with my firearms expert this evening to discuss the practicality of smacky being carried condition 1. for many years i was proud i never had to carry, nor advance to, condition 1. things have changed.

* i cant discuss the matter at hand at this time.
 
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Sorcice

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Nov 13, 2011
Messages
381
Location
Madison, WI
I give you..the wet monkey theory..

"...a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it the superficial apperance of being right, and raises at first a formadable outcry in defence of custom. But, tumult soon subsides."- from Thomas Paine's Common Sense, 1776

The moon eyes will go away in due time. Normal shall soon be veiwed as normal once again.

As the title reads.. The Wet Monkey Theory:


“Operant conditioning is a form of psychological learning where an individual modifies the occurrence and form of its own behavior due to the association of the behavior with a stimulus.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operant_conditioning

What this means, is that people tend to form behaviors based on their operating environment/conditions; as they behave they simultaneously receive a stimulus, good behaviors receive pleasant stimuli, poor behaviors receive negative stimuli.

In the following illustration, consider that the initial monkey group represents those on the scene in Nicaea. Constantine had the power to set the ‘conditions’ for everyone within the range of the growing Empire; those who didn’t follow Roman rules were subject to his wrath.

The initial monkeys in the cage represent the local people in that era; the banana represents the desire to acquire power, which in essence at that time, and even today took the form of knowledge.

Each original monkey in the cage represented a particular belief group that held a portion of power in the region. The water represents the violence and oppression of Rome, which was continually employed to break down these localized power structures.

As Rome broke down the local power structures…it incorporated the remnants into its social fabric, and even into its governing directives.

So, how do we end up with all these monkeys a few thousand years later?

The Wet Monkey Theory

Start with a cage containing five monkeys.
Inside the cage, hang a banana on a string and place a set of stairs under it.
Before long, a monkey will go to the stairs and start to climb towards the banana.
As soon as he touches the stairs, spray all the other monkeys with cold water.
After a while another monkey makes the attempt with same result, all the other monkeys are sprayed with cold water.
Pretty soon when another monkey tries to climb the stairs, the other monkeys will try to prevent it.
Now, put the cold water away. Remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new one.
The new monkey sees the banana and wants to climb the stairs.
To his surprise and horror, all of the other monkeys attack him.
After another attempt and attack, he knows that if he tries to climb the stairs he will be assaulted.
Next, remove another of the original five monkeys and replace it with a new one.
The newcomer goes to the stairs and is attacked.
The previous newcomer takes part in the punishment with enthusiasm.
Likewise, replace a third original monkey with a new one, then a fourth, then the fifth.
Every time the newest monkey takes to the stairs he is attacked.
Most of the monkeys that are beating him have no idea why they were not permitted to climb the stairs or why they are participating in the beating of the newest monkey.
After replacing all of the original monkeys, none of the remaining monkeys have ever been sprayed with cold water.
Nevertheless, no monkey ever again approaches the stairs to try for the banana.
Why not? Because as far as they know that is the way it has always been done around here.


We have millions of monkeys today, mainly because the same business models that were employed 2,ooo years ago, are the same ones being employed today.

Why challenge the way it’s always been said, or done?

Because without the basic human effort to climb the stairs for greater knowledge...we are left powerless to those who process the baby chimps through the cages, teaching them that the golden banana/knowledge is the downfall of mankind…keeping the power centralized.
 

RR_Broccoli

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Joined
Jul 14, 2010
Messages
170
Location
WI
We need a slogan. Something the folks in Madison seem to respond well to...

Maybe something along these lines:

"We're armed.
You're charmed.
Get used to it!"


That way the moon eyed person will be reassured it's just another exercising of rights and it's all OK. :D
 
M

McX

Guest
RR that would make a GREAT t-shirt! so far my studies indicate there is less instance of mooooooon eyes in more affluent areas.
 
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