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    Sometimes, just sometimes I can see why the antis are so scared.

    I was at the Fry's on Thornydale and Ina the other day when this bag boy comes up to me in the parking lot.

    bag boy: "What do you carry?"

    Me: "It's a CZ P-01"

    bag boy: "Do you like it?"

    Me: "Very much"

    bag boy: "I need to get me a gun."

    Me: "Yup. I think everyone should..."

    bag boy: (interrupting) "So I can walk around like a baddass"

    Me: "What? No, that's not a reason to have a weapon!"

    bag boy: "Why do you have one?"

    Me: "Well I never want to be in a situation where I needed it and didn't have it, and besides it's my right..."

    bag boy: (interrupting again) "... to be a badass..."

    Me: "Son, you have no business carrying a gun until you grow up a bit."

    bag boy: "What's wrong with wanting to be a badass?"

    Me: "A gun is not a toy, it is a tool that can cause death, what you are telling me is that you don't understand the seriousness of gun ownership."

    bag boy: (looking extremely confused) "but Arizona is about a bunch of badasses with guns."

    Me: "Have a nice day kid, and do yourself a favor... don't buy a gun until you've had some serious training."

    bag boy: "Right, training is what makes you a badass."



    True story.

    Almost as bad was the guy at the Circle K who asked me what I carried. I told him it was a CZ and he said, "Oh yeah, those are f'in awesome! I carry a CZ75 all the time... in Call Of Duty"
    Really?

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    Smh

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    Some people just don't get it....

    Just out of curiosity, about how old was the bag boy?
    "When seconds count between living or dying, the police are only minutes away."

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    There are a lot of grown people with the same mentality towards guns as the bag boy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilProGuy View Post
    There are a lot of grown people with the same mentality towards guns as the bag boy.
    We still don't know how old the bag boy is...he could be 45.
    "When seconds count between living or dying, the police are only minutes away."

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    He might even be kidding
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigsd View Post
    We still don't know how old the bag boy is...he could be 45.
    True.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dahwg View Post
    I was at the Fry's on Thornydale and Ina the other day when this bag boy comes up to me in the parking lot.

    bag boy: "What do you carry?"

    Me: "It's a CZ P-01"

    bag boy: "Do you like it?"

    Me: "Very much"

    bag boy: "I need to get me a gun."

    Me: "Yup. I think everyone should..."

    bag boy: (interrupting) "So I can walk around like a baddass"

    Me: "What? No, that's not a reason to have a weapon!"

    bag boy: "Why do you have one?"

    Me: "Well I never want to be in a situation where I needed it and didn't have it, and besides it's my right..."

    bag boy: (interrupting again) "... to be a badass..."

    Me: "Son, you have no business carrying a gun until you grow up a bit."

    bag boy: "What's wrong with wanting to be a badass?"

    Me: "A gun is not a toy, it is a tool that can cause death, what you are telling me is that you don't understand the seriousness of gun ownership."

    bag boy: (looking extremely confused) "but Arizona is about a bunch of badasses with guns."

    Me: "Have a nice day kid, and do yourself a favor... don't buy a gun until you've had some serious training."

    bag boy: "Right, training is what makes you a badass."



    True story.

    Almost as bad was the guy at the Circle K who asked me what I carried. I told him it was a CZ and he said, "Oh yeah, those are f'in awesome! I carry a CZ75 all the time... in Call Of Duty"
    Really?
    Bro...why did you even continue the convo with this guy? He got you man...he got you good XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dahwg View Post
    I was at the Fry's on Thornydale and Ina the other day when this bag boy comes up to me in the parking lot.

    bag boy: "What do you carry?"

    Me: "It's a CZ P-01"

    bag boy: "Do you like it?"

    Me: "Very much"

    bag boy: "I need to get me a gun."

    Me: "Yup. I think everyone should..."

    bag boy: (interrupting) "So I can walk around like a baddass"

    Me: "What? No, that's not a reason to have a weapon!"

    bag boy: "Why do you have one?"

    Me: "Well I never want to be in a situation where I needed it and didn't have it, and besides it's my right..."

    bag boy: (interrupting again) "... to be a badass..."

    Me: "Son, you have no business carrying a gun until you grow up a bit."

    bag boy: "What's wrong with wanting to be a badass?"

    Me: "A gun is not a toy, it is a tool that can cause death, what you are telling me is that you don't understand the seriousness of gun ownership."

    bag boy: (looking extremely confused) "but Arizona is about a bunch of badasses with guns."

    Me: "Have a nice day kid, and do yourself a favor... don't buy a gun until you've had some serious training."

    bag boy: "Right, training is what makes you a badass."



    True story.

    Almost as bad was the guy at the Circle K who asked me what I carried. I told him it was a CZ and he said, "Oh yeah, those are f'in awesome! I carry a CZ75 all the time... in Call Of Duty"
    Really?
    Idiot. Gives gun owners a bad name and I'm assuming he was under 21 which makes people like me in the 18-20 range look bad.
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    "Has anyone tried to grab you gun"?

    Reminds me.....
    Last month I was in the corner market. In line waiting to buy beer, some dude
    asked me, "hey, is that legal"?
    "Yes, 100% legal". I was about ready to hand him a Washington State Gun Rights
    Pamphlet when he bellowed out, "has anyone ever tried to grab your gun"?

    Several responses flashed through my mind, ..... 'do you know what a bug is'...ect.
    Than I thought, anyone stupid enough to say something like that, just might be stupid
    enough to do it.
    I left the beer on the counter and walk out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyisfalling View Post
    Reminds me.....
    Last month I was in the corner market. In line waiting to buy beer, some dude
    asked me, "hey, is that legal"?
    "Yes, 100% legal". I was about ready to hand him a Washington State Gun Rights
    Pamphlet when he bellowed out, "has anyone ever tried to grab your gun"?

    Several responses flashed through my mind, ..... 'do you know what a bug is'...ect.
    Than I thought, anyone stupid enough to say something like that, just might be stupid
    enough to do it.
    I left the beer on the counter and walk out.
    seems like a valid question if you're interested in open carry. perhaps the way he asked it sounded childish?
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    “There can be no sanction or penalty imposed upon one because of his exercise of constitutional rights.”
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    Kid was around 18-20 years old, and while at first I thought he was kidding, the absolute look of cluelessness when I told him the gun wasn't about being a "badass" was not something that could be faked. Seriously, you could practically see the wheels turning, and him trying to register what I just told him.

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    sad but thats how alota kids are up on the northside...all them dam tv shows and games, like call of duty, and parents not teaching em right. i live right up the street by the foothills mall and thats one of the main reasons i dont OC anymore up there. teenagers think your just trying to be a badass and start sayin stupid stuff, especially the punk kids. i had a young couple ask if my glock was real while walking to my apt, i said yea and they said o yea so is mine wana see? i just hustled my wife ahead and watched em. it was a girl that even said it. but the punk kids tend to shut up when they see me loading the 12 guage and ak into the truck when its time to go shooting, they just look stunned in a Oh Sh!t, hes for real look
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeGlock40;
    i had a young couple ask if my glock was real while walking to my apt, i said yea and they said o yea so is mine wana see?
    That almost sounds like a threat.
    sent from my phone, excuse my grammar/spelling errors
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    “The claim and exercise of a constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime.”
    [Miller vs. U.S., 230 F. Supp. 486, 489 (1956)]
    “There can be no sanction or penalty imposed upon one because of his exercise of constitutional rights.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeGlock40 View Post
    sad but thats how alota kids are up on the northside...all them dam tv shows and games, like call of duty, and parents not teaching em right. i live right up the street by the foothills mall and thats one of the main reasons i dont OC anymore up there. teenagers think your just trying to be a badass and start sayin stupid stuff, especially the punk kids. i had a young couple ask if my glock was real while walking to my apt, i said yea and they said o yea so is mine wana see? i just hustled my wife ahead and watched em. it was a girl that even said it. but the punk kids tend to shut up when they see me loading the 12 guage and ak into the truck when its time to go shooting, they just look stunned in a Oh Sh!t, hes for real look
    Yup, sounds about right. I live in that same area. Lots of kids that are just daddy's spoiled little spawn.

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    Ya, Parents are too busy working and not busy enough instilling character in their...

    I OC every day and fortunately I've never had anyone ask me anything stupid. A few people eyeing and some compliments but never "Is that real?" or "Can you do that?". I actually expect the latter to happen everyday. Kommifornians and tourists. I guess I've been fortunate that I haven't had to engage that level of ignorance.

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    I frequently get comments from retirees (snow birds) in my area of Mesa about the legality of OC, and comments about the fact that I'm carrying in Condition 1. I mostly get scared looks from teens and younger kids, but I'm a big guy, not very handsome, and shaved head, so I assume people think the worst of me on sight.

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    I have two examples to show how this changes with time and experience. The bag boy in the OP needs this. Back when I was young, it was called the "draft" and not for the NFL or NBA either. I think the Swiss has the right idea BTW. Small standing Army, however, every able bodied male gets to spend some time learning how to defend his country.

    First example was an employee's son..Rambo type...thought carring a machine gun around would be fun...the Marines showed him it was not "fun", it was serious business.

    The second example is a grandson. He was "Mixed Martial Arts" Crazy...The US Army fixed that...now married etc etc...

    Then of course there are those kids that loose the reality line with their Xbox (etc) games...The draft would wake them all up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    Not disagreeing with the assessment of the bag-boy, but I know many who I would consider 'bad-asses' and they don't carry a weapon, that I know of.

    He is correct in one respect, without proper training, the the label bad-ass is hard to achieve and maintain. Typically, mature individuals are usually discovered to be bad-asses, by others, after the fact.
    TRUTH!

    Back in my Paramedic days, we were stopped at a Circle K, my partner for that shift was a very unassuming looking homosexual man (the only reason I bring up his sexual orientation is to point out that he would be considered by most a very non-threatening gentle person because of his lifestyle). Not a nasty hateful guy at all, and not a baddass by anyone's definition.

    We were getting ready to get back into our rig and noticed a guy crouched- hiding behind a car who suddenly leaped up and grabbed a young girl (maybe 14) years old by the hair and started beating her senseless. Before I could even say a word, my co-worker had taken a flying leap, I saw a flurry of activity and the next thing I know had the guy by the throat up against the car near which he had been crouching. He calmly looked over at me and asked if I had called it in to dispatch yet- I had- I was treating the girl (icepack, calming her down, etc.) The cops got there, and it wasn't until they left did I learn what had exactly transpired. This guy was the boyfriend of the girl's mom, and I guess had told her that she was forbidden from being anywhere near the Circle K. He followed her there and started beating the crap out of her. My partner jumped the car and blocked his next fist, the guy had pulled a knife and my partner had just as quickly disarmed him and grabbed him by the throat- none of which I saw in the blur of activity that transpired in that instant, the cops recovered the knife from under the car- exactly where my co-worker told him he had kicked it. THAT is a badasss, without a doubt.

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    I think I met his brother

    I got my first dip$#it last night, and I've been OCing for a couple of years. I stopped for gas, in Marana (the real marana, not the tax zone). Some punk, probably mid 20s, passenger in a beater minivan, "he's got a gun!" "f$%^ing awesome!" "do you have a permit?"
    "nope, this is arizona" and I walk away

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    Quote Originally Posted by HILLBILLYDELUXE View Post
    I think I met his brother

    I got my first dip$#it last night, and I've been OCing for a couple of years. I stopped for gas, in Marana (the real marana, not the tax zone). Some punk, probably mid 20s, passenger in a beater minivan, "he's got a gun!" "f$%^ing awesome!" "do you have a permit?"
    "nope, this is arizona" and I walk away
    Definitely sounds like the same gene pool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HILLBILLYDELUXE View Post
    I think I met his brother

    I got my first dip$#it last night, and I've been OCing for a couple of years. I stopped for gas, in Marana (the real marana, not the tax zone). Some punk, probably mid 20s, passenger in a beater minivan, "he's got a gun!" "f$%^ing awesome!" "do you have a permit?"
    "nope, this is arizona" and I walk away
    Marana? That's part of Sonora Rebel's stomping grounds. You'd think he would have straightened everyone out there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonora Rebel
    "This is Arizona hoss... get used to it..." I keep on goin'. A younger woman nearby: "He's right... Get used to it or go home."
    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...o-OC-in-Marana

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    Quote Originally Posted by carsontech View Post
    Marana? That's part of Sonora Rebel's stomping grounds. You'd think he would have straightened everyone out there.



    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...o-OC-in-Marana
    Meh, he dropped an F'bomb in front of my little girl, told me how great OCDO was, then got in his wifes car and drove away. From what I've seen/read he enjoys confrontations in chatrooms and grocery stores in upper middle class neighborhoods and drives a pickup without a transfercase. But, he looks like a cowboy and OCs a .45, I can vouch for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HILLBILLYDELUXE View Post
    Meh, he dropped an F'bomb in front of my little girl, told me how great OCDO was, then got in his wifes car and drove away. From what I've seen/read he enjoys confrontations in chatrooms and grocery stores in upper middle class neighborhoods and drives a pickup without a transfercase. But, he looks like a cowboy and OCs a .45, I can vouch for that.
    Please go into detail about when he dropped the f'bomb in front of your daughter.

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