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    Racine Posting Per Mayor's Executive Order & Trying To Scert Liability

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    Im not sure legally what the parameters are, but were making it well known we dont want guns in city facilities.


    So you don't even know what you are doing?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outdoorsman1 View Post
    Maybe the mayor should be "escorted " to a "seedy" part of his own city; and be allowed to make his way back home without the burden of electronics, cash, and/or cars...then ask him how he feels about the 2A.
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    Yea... something about on the advise of their attorney's the included the "Disclaimer" ...

    Like I said .. trying to bypass any liability ...



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    the mayor is a leftist politically correct whimp, who'da thought?!

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    "Dickert added hes even more nervous now that the law no longer requires residents to get training to carry concealed weapons as originally proposed"

    Grrrrr!!!

    What is wrong with these people. If your going to comment about something at least study it for a few seconds ... and this a$$ is making policy!!

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    So Wisconsin doesn't have a firearm preemption law???

    I thought that if you post a sign you assume responsibility for any act against someone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venator View Post
    So Wisconsin doesn't have a firearm preemption law???

    I thought that if you post a sign you assume responsibility for any act against someone?
    We do, 66.0409. Municipalities cannot make any ordinance more restrictive than state law, but yet, under Act 35, they can post. However, I and others have said, they cannot post without an ordinance. I don't think this executive order would hold up in a court of law.
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    i'd sue if i was there, unarmed, and something happened if nothing else but for entertainment value, ofcourse by then the city and mayor may be broke even more from the mayor's liable slander suit against him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McX View Post
    the mayor is a leftist politically correct whimp, who'da thought?!
    That......a double "purple-nurple", and a could have had a V-8 smack; to go!!!

    Attachment 7454 Give' em Hel, McX...or the mother-in-law; whichever comes first
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    No suprise here...

    This is just another in a long line of issues for the City of Racine. I moved out of the city years ago because of this mentality [you owe us]. Moved my business a few years later and employ people mostly from other communities now. When I commute, I go around the city and spend my money elsewhere when possible.

    I grew up here and always thought it would mean something. Nothing new, no new ideas, just 'hope and same'. Sad.

    I don't beleive I should disrespect the office here. Ask me in person sometime and I'll tell you what I really think.

    Hhmmpf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venator View Post
    So Wisconsin doesn't have a firearm preemption law???

    I thought that if you post a sign you assume responsibility for any act against someone?
    No. The law says if they don't post, they are immune to liability from that decision. That's it.

    I suspect in order to "win" a liability claim against a posted business, one would have to:

    - be injured in such posted place....
    - survive...
    - show that they would have been carrying at that particular time, but for the sign
    - show that it was likely that carrying would have prevented the injury.
    - probably more.

    Suppose someone followed you in and shot you in the back. It would be very difficult to cast blame on the biz for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurchiron View Post
    Maybe the mayor should be "escorted " to a "seedy" part of his own city; and be allowed to make his way back home without the burden of electronics, cash, and/or cars...then ask him how he feels about the 2A.
    Only have to go a few blocks from city hall. Racine is a dump. I lived there for years.
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