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    Does anyone know if OC is allowed in Clayton and Ladue area?

    I found myself walking into Julies Cupcake store/cafe'. I had on a light jacket that was coving my "stuff", but i was about to pull off my jacket and realized... I don't know the rules out here. I just don't want any trouble espeically when I'm busy.

    Any info would help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firedawg314 View Post
    Does anyone know if OC is allowed in Clayton and Ladue area?

    I found myself walking into Julies Cupcake store/cafe'. I had on a light jacket that was coving my "stuff", but i was about to pull off my jacket and realized... I don't know the rules out here. I just don't want any trouble espeically when I'm busy.

    Any info would help.
    At last check both were Ok with OC, consult the local laws to be sure they did not change.
    If you pull it, you use it. If you pull it and you don't use it, you've done some thing wrong and you might not get another chance. Think about it before you pack it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firedawg314 View Post
    Does anyone know if OC is allowed in Clayton and Ladue area?

    I found myself walking into Julies Cupcake store/cafe'. I had on a light jacket that was coving my "stuff", but i was about to pull off my jacket and realized... I don't know the rules out here. I just don't want any trouble espeically when I'm busy.

    Any info would help.
    Even though this is what this site is for, never take advise on any muni's laws from someone without confirming them yourself. You are asking for trouble if you go by what one person says. Now the one comment made by mspgunner is sound, almost ending up in hot water myself now has me verifying everything even from the most knowledgeable people on here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xdmcompact View Post
    Even though this is what this site is for, never take advise on any muni's laws from someone without confirming them yourself. You are asking for trouble if you go by what one person says. Now the one comment made by mspgunner is sound, almost ending up in hot water myself now has me verifying everything even from the most knowledgeable people on here.
    Exactly! Always, always checkl local laws yourself! You can't go before a judge and say "so-in-so said it was OK".
    One big problem is the local codes are not always up to date on their web sites. I have no solution to that except to go to the local entity itself and thumb through the pages of local laws,
    Not very easy or pactical is it?
    If you pull it, you use it. If you pull it and you don't use it, you've done some thing wrong and you might not get another chance. Think about it before you pack it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by xdmcompact View Post
    Even though this is what this site is for, never take advise on any muni's laws from someone without confirming them yourself. You are asking for trouble if you go by what one person says. Now the one comment made by mspgunner is sound, almost ending up in hot water myself now has me verifying everything even from the most knowledgeable people on here.
    Great point... with that being said... what would you suggest, for me seeking the answers? Before, people where "not easy" about asking the LEO, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firedawg314 View Post
    Great point... with that being said... what would you suggest, for me seeking the answers? Before, people where "not easy" about asking the LEO, etc.
    LEOs are totally not reliable!!!!
    The only way to be 100% sure is to go to the City Halls and check the codes yourself. Sad but true. Some of us do count on each other for the local laws, but you had best be very careful who to trust.
    My friend, take your time with OC, hang with some OC folks, meet ups when they happen.
    Getting arrested can really mess up your life, there are those here who can tell you better than I about that, but unless you have a lot of time and $$$$$$$$$$$$$, just be careful.
    If you pull it, you use it. If you pull it and you don't use it, you've done some thing wrong and you might not get another chance. Think about it before you pack it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mspgunner View Post
    LEOs are totally not reliable!!!!
    The only way to be 100% sure is to go to the City Halls and check the codes yourself. Sad but true. Some of us do count on each other for the local laws, but you had best be very careful who to trust.
    My friend, take your time with OC, hang with some OC folks, meet ups when they happen.
    Getting arrested can really mess up your life, there are those here who can tell you better than I about that, but unless you have a lot of time and $$$$$$$$$$$$$, just be careful.
    Of course (to be careful). I have to take some time out and visit those city halls. I figure if I know of the areas that I mainly be at... that will keep me out of trouble (knowing which city is ok with it and not). Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firedawg314 View Post
    Of course (to be careful). I have to take some time out and visit those city halls. I figure if I know of the areas that I mainly be at... that will keep me out of trouble (knowing which city is ok with it and not). Thanks again.
    You may have to go to check ordinances every week, that's how often they can change. You could check an ordinance on Monday and get arrested on Thursday because they changed it. We are not trying to discourage you from OC'ing just letting you know you are walking on thin ice. We have had no less than five muni's ban OC in the last 4 months or so. Tread lightly and check often!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xdmcompact View Post
    You may have to go to check ordinances every week, that's how often they can change. You could check an ordinance on Monday and get arrested on Thursday because they changed it. We are not trying to discourage you from OC'ing just letting you know you are walking on thin ice. We have had no less than five muni's ban OC in the last 4 months or so. Tread lightly and check often!
    Yeah, I forgot how quick they can change a law in a town. You know, they don't need my money anyway After all, that's rich "Ladue and Clayton". They have the college students to spend their money and all the lawyers and doctors that live there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xdmcompact View Post
    You may have to go to check ordinances every week, that's how often they can change. You could check an ordinance on Monday and get arrested on Thursday because they changed it. We are not trying to discourage you from OC'ing just letting you know you are walking on thin ice. We have had no less than five muni's ban OC in the last 4 months or so. Tread lightly and check often!
    True...however, if you check their city meeting notes from the last several months, you can see if they changed or passed new legislation on the issue without having to pull the code.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbaron007 View Post
    True...however, if you check their city meeting notes from the last several months, you can see if they changed or passed new legislation on the issue without having to pull the code.
    This kind of crap is exactly the reason I'm hesitant to OC before we get state-wide preemption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oramac View Post
    This kind of crap is exactly the reason I'm hesitant to OC before we get state-wide preemption.
    Unfortunately it is a reality of life. State wide preemption is prolly not going to occur . The main thing is to check before going out. I OC here in Springfield, which is OC friendly. Although, most of the LEOs are ok, they don't care for it most of the time-but understand it isn't against the law; however, we have a crop of aggressive rookies on board right now that give pause sometimes.

    I will once again contact my reps in December to suggest to them the notion of a preemptive statute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbaron007 View Post
    Unfortunately it is a reality of life. State wide preemption is prolly not going to occur . The main thing is to check before going out. I OC here in Springfield, which is OC friendly. Although, most of the LEOs are ok, they don't care for it most of the time-but understand it isn't against the law; however, we have a crop of aggressive rookies on board right now that give pause sometimes.

    I will once again contact my reps in December to suggest to them the notion of a preemptive statute.
    Preemption is more likely than you might think, at least in the House. I know in the StL area there are quite a few reps that are in favor of it. One of the strongest being Mark Parkinson.

    That said, I do intend to practice OC. I'm just going to be very very careful about it. I know up here St Charles, St Peters and OFallon are all OC friendly, so I can at least do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oramac View Post
    Preemption is more likely than you might think, at least in the House. I know in the StL area there are quite a few reps that are in favor of it. One of the strongest being Mark Parkinson.

    That said, I do intend to practice OC. I'm just going to be very very careful about it. I know up here St Charles, St Peters and OFallon are all OC friendly, so I can at least do that.
    I would agree with you about the House. The Senate is suspect at best. Plus, if they should pass both, I doubt Jumpin Jay will sign it; so a veto proof vote is needed. Although, you never know.

    However, with that said......one should contact their House/Senate rep to try and punch this through. It would be nice to have this signed and in place this time next year. IIRC, there was a bill this past year; however, it would make OC legal state wide only if you have a CCW...it was HB841.

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